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hazel 03-13-2024 04:36 AM

Someone (I can't remember who) once said:
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BSD is what you get when a bunch of UNIX hackers port UNIX to PCs. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers try to create a UNIX system.

_blackhole_ 03-13-2024 08:28 AM

http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01
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BSD is what you get when a bunch of Unix hackers sit down to try to port a Unix system to the PC. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a Unix system for the PC.
Also:
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“Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix."

– Theo de Raadt

wpeckham 03-13-2024 09:13 AM

There is now no country in Africa (which is larger than the EU, USA, India, and China COMBINED) where internet connected clients are 50% or more Microsoft operating systems. Linux (NOT counting chrome and android) is expected to be over 5% of all clients worldwide before the end of spring and growing. Chrome and Android are a HUGE portion worldwide.

In 1.5 decades Windows went from nearly 70% to under 55% and is still dropping.

No wonder Microsoft is dumping staff (even entire teams) all over the world!

Linux_Kidd 03-13-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham (Post 6489472)
There is now no country in Africa (which is larger than the EU, USA, India, and China COMBINED) where internet connected clients are 50% or more Microsoft operating systems. Linux (NOT counting chrome and android) is expected to be over 5% of all clients worldwide before the end of spring and growing. Chrome and Android are a HUGE portion worldwide.

In 1.5 decades Windows went from nearly 70% to under 55% and is still dropping.

No wonder Microsoft is dumping staff (even entire teams) all over the world!

I use many linux systems to connect to internet, but they proxy to a windoze box. lol.

I wonder what the split is for non-connected systems?
And what are we calling a "system" here, just devices that have a usable user GUI, like Windoze, kde, gnome, etc?
If that GUI check is the test, then we can't discard Android devices.

With the last few posts about "linux", if "linux" is just the kernel piece, then I guess the "Linux" vs "Windows" argument means something different, it would be more like Linux kernel vs the Windoze kernel.

So to be fair, really need to define what "linux vs windows" means, at least for the debate.

hazel 03-13-2024 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Linux_Kidd (Post 6489476)
With the last few posts about "linux", if "linux" is just the kernel piece, then I guess the "Linux" vs "Windows" argument means something different, it would be more like Linux kernel vs the Windoze kernel.

So to be fair, really need to define what "linux vs windows" means, at least for the debate.

I think in this context "Linux" means "GNU/Linux", i.e. the the operating system which combines the Linux kernel and the GNU utilities. After all, that's the FOSS equivalent to Windows, not the Linux kernel as such.

YesItsMe 03-15-2024 12:02 PM

See, some people want an “equivalent to Windows”. I am not one of those.

wpeckham 03-15-2024 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by YesItsMe (Post 6489923)
See, some people want an “equivalent to Windows”. I am not one of those.

Right. When I want "Equivalent to Windows" I run ReactOS. When I want "a whole lot BETTER than Windows" I run Linux.

rkelsen 03-15-2024 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham (Post 6490003)
When I want "a whole lot BETTER than Windows" I run Linux.

This. :)

YesItsMe 03-31-2024 04:24 PM

Finally, the most important problems in Linuxland are being solved by the greates operating system company out there:
Microsoft Helping Out In Making The Linux Kernel Language More Inclusive

hazel 04-01-2024 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YesItsMe (Post 6493250)
Finally, the most important problems in Linuxland are being solved by the greates operating system company out there:
Microsoft Helping Out In Making The Linux Kernel Language More Inclusive

April fool!

Mind you, there could be something in it. Never mind "master" and "slave"; have you ever tried grepping the F-word in the kernel source?

YesItsMe 04-04-2024 08:31 AM

I see that you rarely write any code yourself. I've been writing software for over 25 years now and I can assure you that I can think of VERY flowery expressions for some peculiarities. I see no reason not to write these expressions as a comment about particularly annoying pieces of code, as a kind of warning.

business_kid 04-04-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 6493306)
April fool!

Mind you, there could be something in it. Never mind "master" and "slave"; have you ever tried grepping the F-word in the kernel source?

At your suggestion, I did. There's less than a dozen instances, all apparently because of extreme frustration with control issues of some dodgy device.

Has politeness improved on the LKML after Linus cleaned his act up? Or did that last?

wpeckham 04-04-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6494070)
At your suggestion, I did. There's less than a dozen instances, all apparently because of extreme frustration with control issues of some dodgy device.

Has politeness improved on the LKML after Linus cleaned his act up? Or did that last?

Actually there has been code and comment cleanup to conform with recent "community standards" documents to make code, comments, and documentation less offensive and more inclusive. Alas, "colorful code" is going the way of the Dodo.

business_kid 04-05-2024 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham
Alas, "colorful code" is going the way of the Dodo

Actually I never considered the word that rhymes with 'duck' to be colourful. If half as much intelligence as had been applied to the code was tasked with dreaming up an incisive comment, the code would be a lot richer. People might even code for the comments! :)


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