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Old 05-29-2015, 10:31 PM   #1
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Are we heading to WW III?


Since some months ago, articles about the possibility of a third world war are everywhere in the media. And, though I generally have my reserves about everything the media say, I think there are reasons to be worried about. At the present time there are several wars in the ME and one war in Eastern Europe (namely, Ukraine), territorial conflicts in the seas around China, NATO military exercises near Russia, military exercises between Russia and China, etc.

I don't think anything of this is coincidental. On top of that -- rather, at the root of all this -- there is a serious economic crisis worldwide, and some people say it's going to get worse.

Anyway, a couple of days ago I found this article on the net.

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Word from a senior non-U.S. NATO official to NSA analyst John Schindler is: “We’ll probably be at war this summer. If we’re lucky it won’t be nuclear.” (...)

That warning from Schindler is not to be taken lightly. He is a former U.S Naval War College lecturer and has high-level military contacts.
I had not heard about this NSA analyst before (though he's probably known in the US), but I guess that, coming from a person in his position, this statement is worrying.

It's hard to tell what's finally going to happen, and I really hope the current conflicts get solved by peaceful means, but given the record of some of the parties involved, I don't raise my hopes up.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 12:03 AM   #2
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I know WW3 inevitable, but nobody knows when. Also, some dignitaries and countries love wars because it is profitable.

I, personally don't like wars, BUT if it happens...it happens! <shrug>

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Old 05-30-2015, 12:13 AM   #3
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Also, some dignitaries and countries love wars because it is profitable.
Yeah, I think that's, indeed, part of the problem.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 03:01 AM   #4
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War is an uncontrollable urge to fight and make war by Humans.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 03:19 AM   #5
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Wars are a total waste of money, it would be far better to spend the money on helping the poor, (but it is the rich who make war, & profit from it).
 
Old 05-30-2015, 06:17 PM   #6
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I predict WW III will happen in 2018. This is based upon WW II time scales, and thus assumes that the time scale will be very similar.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 06:25 PM   #7
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no but the USA in 2015 is starting to looks like 1915 Russia

prime for the same type of uprising that happened then
 
Old 05-30-2015, 06:25 PM   #8
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Great, thanks for this -- I won't be able to sleep now...

 
Old 05-30-2015, 08:53 PM   #9
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I don't think we're heading towards a multi-continent symmetric war between multiple superpowers, no.

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Old 06-01-2015, 06:16 AM   #10
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I stopped reading that article when it said that he blabbed about this Summertime war on twitter. Fortunately that was like sentence #3 or so.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:30 AM   #11
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The most widely available/used tool for getting a point across in the world today.

AK-47

I dislike using RT news (govt filtered news agency) but for a history lesson/bio, what the hell.

Mom and Dad were kids in camps in WW2. Mom tells me I better watch watch my a$$ with what she
watches on the news lately. Especially when it comes to laws passed that effect me.

I trust her take on things more than some analyst. My favorite quote lately on all the current world mess.

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"It's a big world out there. ... Best as I can tell, peace isn't breaking out all over."
Said by a teenager soldier in harms way. Just food for thought for odieso77

Bullets and guns are not a needed tool, when going to war in this day and age.
It can start with whimper.

So better brush up on your understanding of war strategy as it is used today.

You have the lay the ground work 1st before you lock and load.
All these other gang fights you see on the news.
Civil wars in Ukraine and the Middle East and Asia and South America.

They are Just over size, my block wants your block disputes. Like drive by shootings in USA inner cities (MS-13 VS Mexican Mafia). But on a larger scale.

WW3 will be way way larger than that.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 09:51 AM   #12
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Since some months ago, articles about the possibility of a third world war are everywhere in the media.
You should always take what "the media" say with a grain of salt. Especially when the "news of the day" is repeated over and over and everywhere in a surprisingly consistent way. That's when my Lies & FUD & Bullshit Detector starts blinking and ringing. If something like that is "everywhere in the media", there's probably a precise reason, which of course is not being explained at all "in the media" themselves. So you'd better watch out, and not fall into that buzzword trap. Especially when those who want you to know that <put_some_scary_situation_here> is about to happen, are probably the same who eventually can make it happen, and would have their wallets grinning if it happened.

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Old 06-01-2015, 12:26 PM   #13
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Yep, WWIII has been soon to start ever since WWII was over with!
 
Old 06-01-2015, 01:33 PM   #14
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I don't know. It seems that the world is far too connected for a real world war to start. There will be tensions for sure. But no one wants the deep recessions that wars usually bring...
 
Old 06-01-2015, 01:51 PM   #15
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I also doubt that will have "World War III." That is so 1940.

Far better to read a few stanzas from The Art of War, where it discusses using your mortal enemy's hubris and self-confidence against him. For instance, patiently infiltrate his work-force with millions of "imported" workers, any of whom could be (and some of which are) enemy operatives, and when your enemy sends them home every six months, be sure they carry as many terabytes of highly-detailed information about your enemy's individual citizens as they can carry. Don't worry: airport security doesn't care about little plastic cards containing memory-chips removed from all those USB-stick enclosures. It won't even detect them. Airport security already knows what it's looking for, and has spent billions of dollars obsessively looking for ... nothing else.

Also, in the name of "the cloud," encourage him to export his data-centers and his very databases to "far-away countries where the labor is dirt-cheap" and where it is also very porous. Patiently collect the information that your enemy pours through your hands.

When you strike, you can strike at the individual citizen, with the surgical precision that comes from knowing everything about him. Or, maybe, his children. (Wouldn't that be better?) There's nothing that "all that secret eavesdropping" will tell you, because the Hadoop clusters that processed-down all that information were never on The Net. And in any case, "you can't outrun your daily life." Your phone even told us what cube you sit in, at your office. What bus your kids ride to school. How long they stand waiting for it. Google Maps shows that you can't quite see them from the road. Everything.

Think Different. A different kind of War. A kind of War that makes "demolitioning three tall buildings in New York City during working hours" look like child's play. A kind of War that, like a well-placed Judo throw, uses your opponent's obsession with data-collection ... an obsession that cheerfully expanded from "the military" to "the private sector" ... against him. "Everybody knows everything about everybody." (Koff, koff ...) "For legitimate marketing reasons, of course." But no one knows who has "all that data," nor even "where in the world it is."

You probably wouldn't fear a "World War III" too much if it did come, because you'd be confident that your armies and navies would actually keep it all "far away from you." But, what about a kind of War that "all those armies and navies" were useless to fight? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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