Why sarge does not allow me to install KDE?
What is going on in debian developing team?
Is KDE going to be included in the final release?

KDE is not as efficient as GNOME but it is still more user-friendly, I feel.
Some of the features that KDE(even 2.2) has can not yet be seen in the latest GNOME.

I don't feel like it...

You can get KDE 3.1.4 in sarge what are the errors you get when you try to install, how are you trying to install, what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list a few more details are going to be needed before anyone can help you. And yes when sarge becomes new stable it will have KDE 3.1.5 when it is released.

any idea when sarge is becoming stable?i would love to install it...just dont want to do that intil it becomes stable..i am happy with Sid till then.

"KDE is not as efficient as GNOME but it is still more user-friendly, I feel."

wait for KDE 3.2 to get into apt-get. I installed the experimental stuff for Debian, and it is CONSIDERABLY faster than KDE 3.1, and, at least on my system, also faster than GNOME. According to this: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE , 3.2 should be in unstable within the next few days. Just do 'apt-get -t unstable install kde'

You can use KDE 3.2, by using the deb created by the KDE team..
For example I grab mine from a local mirror:

In my sources.list file:

deb ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.kde...ble/3.2/Debian stable main

It is significantly faster from what I can see. I got fed up waiting for it to be released into unstable/sid.

Ricky Chan

p.s. Remember to install kdm even if you don't use it or kdesktop_lock won't work as it seems some dependcies where not put into kdebase.
p.p.s. It won't like gnome and will uninstall it when using apt-get to upgrading..
probs why not in unstable/sid yet.

i tried installing it using the deb sources given on kde's website:
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

however these keep giving me dependency issues and so i have not gone about installing 3.2 yet..i did install 3.2 from cvs debs but then rmeoved it and decided to wait until better/official debs are released.
could someone keep us posted as to when those will be released?

Yeah, the KDE team's debs use the libqt3-mt libraries, while sarge and sid use the libqt3c102-mt libraries. They are a pain to deal with those dependencies. If you want 3.2 now, there are a couple of addresses to put in your sources.list on this website: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE . I installed it and it works at this point.

Have you tried these ones I be using them for a while now and they do seem to work well.

The first one gives a not found error.the second one does have the debs but i do not want CVS snapshots...i want the final release and so i guess i will wait.i think i will get 3.2 installed at work though so this will give me sometime to play around with it too.

Have you tried these:

deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.95/ ./
deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde-3.2 ./

Yes, you need BOTH of them - they each contain different things. Note that these are the packages that will end up in unstable in the near future. These are the KDE Debian package developers. It's probably easiest (if you have KDE already installed) to do 'apt-get -t people.debian.org dist-upgrade'. They are technically pre-experimental at this point - but I've had them installed for a couple of days, and it seems perfectly stable to me. Or, you could just wait for them to get in unstable.

Oh, I did not make myself clear for giving no details...
I thought everyone was having the same problem.
I was using the official debian site. ftp://ftp.debian.org

Here is my first attempt:
I installed woody base system(the mini disc) first as sarge installer did not seem work.
Then edited apt sources.list, pointed it to the site above, followed by apt-get dist-upgrade.
After base system was upgraded, I runned tasksel, selected x system and desktop environment, which should give me both KDE and GNOME as in woody.
The program did not install KDE for me by default.
So, when sarge was up, I runned synaptic to get KDE manually.
I started with arts and kdelibs, which are essential and should be installed first.
It always complaint saying dependency was unmet.

Here is the second:
The same steps as mentioned above till base system is upgraded and up.
Then apt-get install X windows system and those K packages. Once again, it stuck at arts or kdelibs( I can't remember which one exactly as that was a couple of weeks ago).

Therefore, I thought someone purposely dumped KDE.
I did not keep any log (if there was any) and ignored KDE for the time being.
I made another fresh installation and then started playing with sarge.
Days later, I was not quite happy with the new GNOME and wanted to try to get KDE. And there came this post looking for help.

Anyway, thanks for you guys, I did not know there are so many options.
I am going to get KDE 3.2, so bye for now.

From http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE

Sarge [aka testing] (using sid debs)
As of 24-Jan-2004, the current version of KDE on DebianTesting is not installable, though that will eventually get fixed.

If you want to get the latest KDE packages from sid (on a testing system):

create /etc/apt/preferences containing:
Package: *
Pin: release testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release unstable
Pin-Priority: 600
add lines to /etc/apt/sources.list pointing at unstable
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main
(replace ftp.uk.debian.org with your normal Debian mirror;
not all mirrors are equal!)
update and install KDE from unstable!
apt-get update
apt-get install kde-core -t unstable
you can easily install futher KDE packages - just remember to use -t unstable
apt-get upgrade will work as normal, and keep you up-to-date