Quick question about this TDE...will it be a *choice* of DE to use at startup, like I have presently with being able to choose Plasma 5 X11 or Wayland or FVWM on my 'current'? Or, is this a 'takes-over-from-Plasma 5' type of DE installation? I really, really miss KDE 3, and tried Trinity once way back, but it wasn't quite ready yet at the time.

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i don't think it will take over Plasma5, if I am not mistaken TDE is installed in /opt/ - because it uses QT3 as well, so you will have essentially Plasma5/QT5 where it resides in /usr/bin.

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I very seriously doubt TDE can actually be included as a default choice let alone takeover. It's fast and it does have a few not inconsequential advantages but it's worth recalling that the last Slackware version that came with KDE 3.5 was 12.2. A great deal we mostly now take for granted has changed. I suppose some of it is subjective and up-for-grabs (like HAL vs/ eudev) but

1) I ran TDE on a 32bit 14,0 install that was later upgraded to 14.2 and it was indeed very snappy but I found it to lack so many important features it never became my go to daily driver as I hoped it would. Originally with 3.5 era features I was so pleased with Krusader as a filemanager I couldn't imagine ever liking Dolphin but now there really is just no comparison for someone who likes to work within a file manager. To mention just one aspect, it is far too useful to have all drives detected and listed but not mount them until you want to work with them. If there are drives that you always wish to work with, fstab to /mnt still works.

2) I'll attach a screenshot below but I have played around with every release since 12.2 to make them run KDE 3.5 while employing the newest kernels I could install and configure to handle my 2 year old Main PC. Recently I got Slackware 15.0 to accept QT3 and KDE3 with a modern kernel and a reasonably modern Firefox and only a few remaining glitches. It really is amazingly fast despite being 32bit but frankly it really, to me anyway, isn't worth the losses and I suspect that TDE will have the same problems, unless a massive amount of tweaking gets accomplished. A few years ago it was indistinguishable from KDE 3.5 and it would need some distinguishing abilities to catch up to modern requirements for most use cases, IMHO

Anyway, here's the screenie

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Kinda sad, but I get the impression that TDE just does not have the same level of support and development like MATE does - that is just my opinion.

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Hello @everyone. I love both T.D.E. and the Common Desktop Environment, I don't remember who it was but thank you very much dear Slacker for reminding me about Q4OS .

Kind regards,
1483/3802 (He / Him).

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What are these features TDE lacks? You only mention decent handling of drive mounting. What else is missing? If you are referring to a disruptive, pop-up notification system, I can live without that waste of my mental resources. Or maybe silly floating transparent Dashboard apps? Or perhaps a bloated and creepy, privacy-threating "search" tool? Seriously, though, are there any good new (relative to KDE 3) features I don't know I'm taking for granted in the latest XFCE which are missing in TDE?

I recently installed KDE 3.5 (running on a very old distro) in a vm because I wanted to experiment with old cross-development software for Sharp Zaurus and while the Zaurus stuff was the shambolic mess I remembered, I found KDE 3.5 rather nice and wished I could have it on the host OS.

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for sure.

iirc, there's only one distro that ships it (sorry, do not remember which one); MATE, on the other hand, has been adopted by so many distros and is officially regarded by a valid desktop environment. Also, MATE got ported to GTK3, while TDE seems to just keep QT3 alive for as long as possible.

kinda pity for TDE

Q4OS

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If I am not mistaken I think it is/was PCLinuxOS. I haven't messed with that distro in a VM for a while, but I solely recall that distro shipping with TDE. If TDE did have the same development like MATE I would probably fall back to that imo. I mean Plasma5 is nice, but I think I still liked 3.5 more - as did everyone else, in this post .

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EXE GNU/LINUX (Devuan GNU/Linux with Trinity Desktop)

exegnulinuxDOTnet

Slackware_Trinity_Installation_Instructions are at the trinity site

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Well, I decided to have a look at TDE to find out how it is. I used the script at https://github.com/Ray-V/tde-slackbuilds to build the latest stable source, which takes about an hour on a skylake generation machine. I only built the minimal core stuff because I'm not really thrilled by KDE games, office, and pim stuff.

I do not use a display manager and I said no when asked about putting anything in /etc/rc.d. I'm starting TDE by running startx with /opt/tde/bin/starttde at the bottom of .xinitrc.

The Display tool does not work very well with an external monitor. Knemo (networking manager) only seems to know about WEP, no WPA for wifi. Of course these shortcomings can easily be worked around by using nmcli and xrandr, but you kind of want to get away from the command line or else why use a DE?

The file manager seems to pick up insertion of USB storage without problems, but I only tested 2 sticks that were handy. (I didn't try any phones or e-readers which are often troublesome.) Shutdown/Restart/Suspend work from the menu as expected, so I guess DBUS voodoo is more or less working ok.

Theming seems to be working ok, at least to the extent that I was able to set everything to a dark theme from the painful default.

My test laptop has a really annoying loud fan and it does not come on nearly as much in TDE compared to XFCE. Maybe because I set effects to minimum. Anyway, there doesn't seem to be anything show-stoppingly bad/missing so I'm still using TDE right now and will probably build more of it for further testing.

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Congrats slackmensch! I'm nowhere close to certain having modded, harassed and installed so many mongrel variations in the interim, but IIRC "WICD" did work on an older TDE Trinity, solving several wifi issues including WPA.

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nm-applet runs fine in the TDE tray just like in XFCE and it's included in Slackware 15. I didn't immediately think to try just running it myself. You can autostart it by creating a symbolic link to /usr/bin/nm-applet in ~/.tde/Autostart.

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I am looking for help with the build script from https://github.com/Ray-V/tde-slackbuilds.

Everything I try results in the script aborting. The script won't download anything let alone begin to build packages.

I really would like to try this.

Thanks!

Edit: I got this working. Not clear anywhere on the web page is needing to use git clone. There is a reference to that in the RPi section but not in the beginning of the readme.

Any KDE3 or TDE folks with a good memory about themes?

I got TDE installed with the previous referenced build scripts. Seems to be working fine.

I want to increase the panel height without the task bar buttons stacking. For example, with the KDE Classic theme I can increase the panel to 37 pixels without stacking but bump to 38 pixels and the task bar buttons stack.

I am guessing this is a theme attribute because I downloaded the Q4OS ISO and many of those themes do not stack the buttons. The themes packaged for Slackware seem to all stack and the same themes stack on Q4OS too. Hence my guess that tinkering with themes is the solution. I am poking around the theme files but haven't found the magic attribute or pattern.

Thanks!

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