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Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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TDE: The Trinity Desktop for Slackware Users.
A thread for those who have questions and/or would like to discuss the use of The Trinity Desktop Environment in Slackware (and those who still miss KDE-3.5. ).
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2020.11.01: TDE R14.0.9 release is here!
.....This release comes with new styles providing better look and feel (Baghira, Domino, Ia Ora), new widgets (KoolDock and TastyMenu), new utilities (KXMLEditor, Mathemagics, Qalculate) and new applications (Codeine, TDEDocker, TDEPacman). It also adds support for Xine 1.2.10, improves compatibility with PulseAudio, fixes various bugs, adds support for brightness control from keyboard and integrates CVE-2020-17507 to prevent buffer overflow in XBM parsers.....
A thread for those who have questions and/or would like to discuss the use of The Trinity Desktop Environment in Slackware (and those who still miss KDE-3.5. ).
Speaking of Trinity, has anyone heard from Board Member Woodsman?
He's very much around, if my intuition is correct.
I tried TDE with Q4OS, and it's certainly a nice desktop. The problem, as far as I remember, is that there are two or three guides to get it running in Slackware, and the process is convoluted and uninviting.
FWIW my modus operandi for major changes is usually to continue with what is a known good and do a separate partition install of the new. Even though my CPUs have been 64bit for many years I ran 32bit 14.0 rather long after 14.2 was released. I did this for two major reasons -
1) I viewed multilib as (an unnecessary) pita and needed 32bit capability for gaming which became very important after my stroke
2) I preferred, and still prefer, pure ALSA and 14.0 wasn't yet infected by pulseaudio
A few years ago, after running 14.2 Multilib on a separate partition install, it became my Main but I still have the old system. Once /Extra/PureALSA became available I upgraded 14.0 32 bit to 14.2 32bit with PureALSA applied. Because that old system was mainly about multimedia work especially gaming, I installed TDE and did it manually and somewhat imperfectly (I missed a few KDE4 libraries). It still worked really well with only a few very minor functions compromised. If it had remained my Main I'd have simply removed the remaining KDE4 stuff and reinstalled the appropriate few TDE items. I never bothered because everything I really needed worked fine and before long 14.2 64bit w/ Multilib had won me over.
Nevertheless my experience with TDE was excellent. It was and is exceptionally snappy. The biggest downside for me is that File Managers are exceptionally important to me. They are the hub of my workflow from long habit. Although I loved Krusader, in a fairly short time. Dolphin won me over. Dolphin is as near to perfect a file manager as I can even imagine. The lack of Dolphin in TDE was major in my deciding to begin following -Current and Plasma5.
I seem to vaguely recall that Dolphin is somewhat supported in more recent versions of TDE but I could be mistaken since I have mentally moved on. Pure ALSA is essentially broken in recent -Current Multilib w/ KTown but Pulseaudio has become more manageable and will fairly easily just stay out of the picture. This highlighted for me that it is most often unwise to try to hang on to too much dead end code, and instead try to adapt and in some cases maintain older versions in /opt for those few things I just I can't part with.
I wish the Trinity project had received more support to keep up as it is a very comfortable and exceptionally snappy and intuitive environment. It still is in my estimation completely viable for older hardware and some specific use cases. I do worry some about browser support as my experimenting with older Slackware versions with kernel and gcc upgrades worked great but the further I went back the more browsers became a problem.
If you loved KDE v3x, enjoy the simpler more intuitive DE, or just like to tinker, TDE is certainly worthwhile and some will just love it. I'd suggest a separate install as it is not a trivial exercise but it is rewarding. Did I mention it is REALLY fast!???
Didn't mean to imply it was your fault. Just letting you know there was a problem. There wasn't any instruction on what to do next and I'm lost as to what to do next. Oh well, this old dog will just have to learn a few new tricks....
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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"2021.04.30: TDE R14.0.10 release is ready!"
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The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) development team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of TDE R14.0.10.
TDE is a complete software desktop environment designed for Unix-like operating systems, intended for computer users preferring a traditional desktop model, and is free/libre software. Born as a fork of KDE 3.5 back in 2010, TDE is now a fully independent project with its own personality and development team, available for various Linux distros, BSD and DilOS.
This release comes with new applications (KlamAV, Komposé), major enhancements to virtual keyboard, customizable icon spacing on KDesktop, various minor improvements and fixes to several long standing annoying crashes.
Other than nostalgia, I can't think of a reason to use this over LXQt or xfce which would in the end do the same thing that TDE does. Still looks like a cool desktop environment.
Distribution: Slackware 15.0 x64, Slackware Live 15.0 x64
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Originally Posted by alnun
Other than nostalgia, I can't think of a reason to use this over LXQt or xfce which would in the end do the same thing that TDE does. Still looks like a cool desktop environment.
Well, because neither of those are 'KDE'. LXQt sounded like something fantastic to me when I first heard/saw it coming out, but all *it* is, is XFCE with different colors and icons. So, for me, personally, neither of those two were or are anything I like as a DE and because I like Krusader file manager (and truly can't stand that thing XFCE has!) neither of those is of any worth to me unless a large bunch of 'things KDE' are installed so I can use that and then eventually the whole DE is just a garbled mess...whereas I have *always* honestly *enjoyed* KDE, from 3 to 5 (Plasma), and TDE *is* for the nostalgia *and* the speed but keeping it still 'KDE'. JMHO, heh.
Other than nostalgia, I can't think of a reason to use this over LXQt or xfce which would in the end do the same thing that TDE does. Still looks like a cool desktop environment.
Pretty much all DEs "do the same thing TDE does", but that doesn't stop us from having many DEs to choose from. Some people really liked KDE3 and haven't liked KDE4 or Plasma5. It's all about choice and what the end user likes.
Personally, I don't think I'd run TDE other than for nostalgia, but I'd much rather run that over xfce. It isn't that xfce is bad, there's just a lot that I personally don't prefer (and I've used it for months at a time, so it isn't just because it's "different" than KDE). It is still a great choice for a great number of people. I'm happy with KDE4 and after some growing pains, I imagine I'll be happy with Plasma5.
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