Can't anymore. You need to do a better job of keeping up with the trends .


I would say that this description fits Slackware (the distribution) too.

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Not entirely true, but even those who don't care for the KDE approach to things have for the most part taken a pretty neutral stance: merely stating that they "Don't use it and wouldn't mind one way or the other.".

Really don't understand what rattled Alan's cage as there doesn't seem to be much to get upset about here.

I would not be worried about KDE getting dropped.

In whatever way they are going to wrap the 4.7 sources, I consider it a challenge to find a way to build the binaries for them, and actually Pat Volkerding already told me how it is going to be done. If I get energetic and find some time, I will implement it, but integrating KDE 4.7 will pose some additional design decisions for Slackware which I do not want to influence by releasing beta builds too early.

Eric

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alan_ri,

Thanks for a good laugh this morning, that was hilarious!

I trust in the good judgement of Mr. Volkerding and the entire Slackware team. I predict that there will be a positive solution to this issue.

Let me guess ... It's something like the Xorg build?

Of course. Modularizing the hell out of it.

Eric

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Can I hope that this time everything KDE-only related will be moved from /l to /kde ?

Let me tell you a few things, Slackware users.

You have to understand that this is not about Bob. Fuck the aliens. It's about your brain.

Not many will understand this, whatever.

I could've, I might've, but I won't, because who should will see and you're not lying to me you're lying to yourself.

I've been through a lot of shit in my life, and no Slackware shit will make my life better, but it should be fair to anyone it may hope for. You have to know yourself, it's written in the Bible.

You know what, in my country there's a group for a people with a high IQ, it's called Mensa, I'm a member you may say, I'm kind of sick of fucked up idiots.

Elite, do you understand me? A fucked up elite. Not many of you do, but if you read carefully, you might, a little or so or whatever.

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Wrong drugs today? What is wrong with you?

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alan_ri,

That was a very rude, inappropriate post. There is no need for language like that.

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I am one of the community, and I dislike KDE, a lot! I don't like the idea of distributions inside the distribution. But when I voiced my opinion earlier, I thought it important to be as UNflammable as possible. If you absolutely have to keep it, fine. I still refuse to touch it.

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@alan_ri

Well, I like very much Croatian Vodka, too! Good and pure alcohol ...

BUT, I think today YOU have consumed enough vodka to do a horse anesthesia! Maybe you should sleep a bit?

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You know, there is a whole lot of weird things in that book. It's very important that you are sober when you read it, or you may end up believing it. May I suggest Tolkien instead?

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Why not kick everything? Well, then we'd probably have something like GENTOO. I like Slackware because it is a rather complete set of open source packages with the dependencies and patches taken care of. Since the packages are mostly untouched, that means I can update or install open source without too many issues. I like not having to install most of the boiler plate. KDE would be nice, but it isn't essential.

What I like about Slackware is that it achieves the goals that it sets. That also means being realistic about resources to maintain the distro. If KDE becomes a major hog of the available time to maintain the distro, it makes sense to consider dropping it.

I don't see this as a "we don't feel like maintaining KDE" situation so much as a practical decision based on how much time people have to maintain the distro and where that time is spent.

Somehow "saintly" does not come to mind when thinking of Slackware users. However, I appreciate the vote of confidence. I'll pass the recommendation on to the creator.

I've never thought of myself as elite. I'm a Linux n00b and struggling Windows programmer who would much rather write embedded applications in assembly language than mess with operating systems.

Every distro has something different to offer to the Linux user community. Some of us use more than one. I try not to be fanatical about what distro is the best. After experimenting with distros, Debian is one of the better distros, along with Slackware and a few others.

One reason why I like Slackware is that we do have some lively and controversial discussions about the distro. I've never felt reluctant to criticize Slackware when I think there is room for improvement. I'm also glad that people can express their ideas and opinions, including ones like "rip out KDE" or "get rid of "LILO".

Some of us have less informed opinions than others. I admit that I sometimes go off on a rant, especially when I get frustrated with something. I can't speak for others, but my impression is that there has been some serious thought about the problems of maintaining KDE in the future. I've always had the opinion that the ones doing the work are the best source of information about the problems. There aren't many distros with KDE, and none that I know of are planning to add KDE.

A lot of criticism of Slackware boils down to "It doesn't have GNOME" and it doesn't automatically try to take care of all dependencies. Whether one likes or dislikes Slackware, it does distinguish itself by not being just another GNOME distro clone. Whatever decision is made about KDE, I hope that Slackware continues to distinguish itself with the same philosophy that has made it popular.

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I am sorry, but considering all what have been said here, I had no other words. I hope you understand.

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