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Old 07-12-2017, 03:04 PM   #46
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Look folks.
We need to keep thread replies that relate directly to the Original Post's question.
When you move off and make comments the thread falls apart.
Please delete any comments that don't directly relate to the original question.
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Be sure you don't add in comments that may offend also.
 
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:30 PM   #47
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SalixOS will be more then happy to accommodate the MLED community.
https://salixos.org/index.html
 
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:56 AM   #48
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Take care man! I have a question though what exactly are the critical components that you require and feel are difficult to get working and updated? I toyed with a small home server before, but I pretty much use my computer as a workstation and desktop.
Here is one example, it's been almost a year and no success. Because I wasn't successful, I was force to dual boot. After I stripped Windows off all my computers except for one, which is needed for printing, connect to my L2TP etc... all which I'm not able to do in Slackware. This is just a couple of reasons. When I left Windows, it wasn't because it didn't handle my needs, it was because I wanted to try something new. I'm adventurous
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ror-4175585897
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:17 AM   #49
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Here is one example, it's been almost a year and no success. Because I wasn't successful, I was force to dual boot. After I stripped Windows off all my computers except for one, which is needed for printing, connect to my L2TP etc... all which I'm not able to do in Slackware. This is just a couple of reasons. When I left Windows, it wasn't because it didn't handle my needs, it was because I wanted to try something new. I'm adventurous
www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/l2tp-error-4175585897
I resolved my L2TP vpn issues by setting up the L2tp/ipsec vpn in my router.

I realize that my problem is not knowing enough about how this all works, but it is difficult to find appropriate resources for learning.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:24 AM   #50
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My L2TP server requires certificates. Can you pm your instructions? I'll give it a shot. Right now I'm dual booting Neverware/Cloudready and Slackware/MLED.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:27 AM   #51
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Here is one example, it's been almost a year and no success. Because I wasn't successful, I was force to dual boot. After I stripped Windows off all my computers except for one, which is needed for printing, connect to my L2TP etc... all which I'm not able to do in Slackware. This is just a couple of reasons. When I left Windows, it wasn't because it didn't handle my needs, it was because I wanted to try something new. I'm adventurous
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ror-4175585897
Thanks for the explanation! There is this one too which seems like it can be built for 32 bit: https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...work/openl2tp/

32 bit support in Linux is being ditched lately. The printer was probably the most challenging thing to setup. Its one of those things that needs to be intentionally researched for support in Linux before purchase.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 11:33 AM   #52
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If ever I give up Slackware I will choose M$.
Reason:
Simple
Better original than its commercial mimicking clones

PS.Some kind of joke but ...
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:39 PM   #53
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It's highly likely that Slackware wasn't designed around the needs of certain sysadmins, who wanted everything to be effortless and less time consuming for them. In fact Slackware is Patrick Volkerding's own personal Linux distribution, for you to use (or not) as you see fit. What you do with it and what it can do, really depends on you. It was never conceived as a "mass consumption" subscription offering like RHEL or Windows Server. So if something else does the job better, it's best to skip the drama and just use it.
This is the attitude that continues to leave Linux trailing behind their superiors Microsoft/Macs. I'll say it for the last time, No customer/consumer wants to go through a phase of million instructions just to do a few simple tasks. If you believe in that ideology, then you'll forever be lost. I'm not knocking Linux, but why haven't they surpass Microsoft/Macs? Mark my words, Macs will surpass Microsoft. Chrome OS is Not far behind. You ever heard of 98lite, NT lite, Win 7 lite, etc...Tools to configure your system the way you want it, not the creator who thinks they knows whats best for the individual system.

Then you have guys say I want to be spoon-fed because I don't have the time to read every article and possibility. Everything I have I own, I don't rent or borrow, I buy. I was working 84 hrs a week to get ahead. So when you guys say all I want is to be spoon-fed, you have no idea. Thats the one track ________ kicking in.

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Old 07-14-2017, 10:21 PM   #54
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Why are you upset? The post you quoted wasn't even directed at you. If you want to use Windows, go ahead. No one is going to judge you for it.
 
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:04 PM   #55
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This is the attitude that continues to leave Linux trailing behind their superiors Microsoft/Macs. I'll say it for the last time, No customer/consumer wants to go through a phase of million instructions just to do a few simple tasks.
I think you're misunderstanding his post. I read it more to mean that there is no ideal Operating System that will be the best for everyone. Everyone will have their own needs and desires that one OS or distro might be better suited for than another. While I personally prefer Slackware and I know it's the best distro/OS for my needs, I know that Slackware isn't for everyone. For some, LFS (Linux From Scratch) fits their needs, for others, OSX is the best fit. There's also plenty of people that are best suited for a Microsoft OS. Slackware may just not be for you (I'm not saying it's not, since I don't know all your needs and desires, but who knows, it may just not be for you). That's not a knock on you, and it's not a knock on Slackware. As you probably know by now, Slackware doesn't always conform to what the other distros are doing. Pat has his vision of Slackware and he strives towards that vision with every release or update. That vision is not the same as Debian's, Ubuntu's, Arch's, or Windows. It doesn't mean that any vision is right or wrong, just different.

If you do end up feeling that Slackware isn't for you and you switch to another distro or even move permanently back to Windows, then that is what needs to happen. You were able to accomplish a lot and should feel proud of your time here. But if you feel it is time to go, then do it. Hopefully you'll have more fond memories than poor ones when you remember back to your Slackware days

Who knows, maybe you'll get the itch again in 10 years and see what the latest Slackware has to offer...
 
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Old 07-15-2017, 02:45 AM   #56
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The "Kikinovak leaves Slackware" drama again

You can still use Slackware to show your students what Linux was in the early days when the men were real men

Cheers
On a side note, it's a bit symptomatic for this forum - at least a loud minority of its userbase - that the one post in this thread that has been judged most "helpful" is ivandi's farewell sneer.

My blog post was meant as a simple courtesy, mainly directed at those who used my packages and who wondered what happened to them. And a fact-based explanation of why I decided to move to a distribution that happened to be better suited to my needs. Your mileage may vary and probably does.

"When the men were real men" merely reminds me of the local youth who spend a significant amount of their time driving through the village on the back wheel of their scooters and wonder why the girls still don't fall in love with them. I've been a happy Slackware user since 2001 (Slackware 7.1), and I will probably still continue to use it on some machines. But I never felt my manhood was connected to the choice of a Linux distribution.

The move to CentOS was simply motivated by a series of technical details (SELinux, PAM, Postfix, Dovecot, Squid, Certbot, support until 2024, etc.) But discussing the pros and cons of system components and distribution choices now seems as vain as entering the local bar in the village during a soccer match and telling the men loudly cheering the Olympique de Marseilles that you'd rather support the Paris Saint-Germain club.

Cheers from the unmanly part of South France

Niki

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:34 AM   #57
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the local youth who spend a significant amount of their time driving through the village on the back wheel of their scooters
jeez... is this a global trend? I am so tired of the little pricks, riding their farting scooters through the sleeping neighbourhood at midnight.
 
Old 07-15-2017, 10:11 AM   #58
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jeez... is this a global trend? I am so tired of the little pricks, riding their farting scooters through the sleeping neighbourhood at midnight.
I think this is a very old trend.
 
Old 07-15-2017, 07:40 PM   #59
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Mark my words, Macs will surpass Microsoft.
In your dreams, with the price point being one of the main reasons why you're dreaming.

I'm not an average consumer, but my experiences with the iphone 5 along with my experiences of using a Macbook Pro at work have left me unimpressed.

And the very first computer that I spent my money upon was an AppleII+. Those guys lost me back in 1985.
 
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:42 PM   #60
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On a side note, it's a bit symptomatic for this forum - at least a loud minority of its userbase - that the one post in this thread that has been judged most "helpful" is ivandi's farewell sneer.
I merely assumed that ivandi had that many shadow accounts.
 
  


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