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Old 08-17-2009, 04:49 PM   #106
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Unhappy a silly issue... DontZap=Off doesn't seem to work anymore...


Hi there

I am using -current, minus KDE 4, plus KDE 3.5.10. Stock generic kernel (by now)., but I do think that has nothing to see with this issue: Ctrl-Alt-Bkspace doesn't seem to work anymore!

Relevant lines on my xorg.conf

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "DontZap" "0" # it should work and xorg.0.log shows it passes the flag
# Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" # that doesn't work either
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "HPkbd"
Driver "kbd"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "acpi"
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
EndSection

I think that the keyboard model could have something to do with it. Should it?
 
Old 08-17-2009, 06:06 PM   #107
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Hi there

I am using -current, minus KDE 4, plus KDE 3.5.10. Stock generic kernel (by now)., but I do think that has nothing to see with this issue: Ctrl-Alt-Bkspace doesn't seem to work anymore!

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "DontZap" "0" # it should work and xorg.0.log shows it passes the flag
I think that the keyboard model could have something to do with it. Should it?
You shouldnt need the DontZap option.
HAL is patched so that DontZap is the default.
See the first patch here: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackwar...l/hal/patches/

So it should work without you doing anything
 
Old 08-17-2009, 06:28 PM   #108
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Therein lies part of the problem/solution: HAL. Not your keyboard or anything like that.

I inquired about the very same issue a while back, and was told that one needed to configure the zapper in one of the enigmatic HAL configuration files (filename something like ridiculous.freedesktop.default.10.org.fdi.hal.fdi.10 :/) if it had already not been in there by default.

In my case, I have in my xorg.conf the three magic lines required to keep HAL the heck away from my input devices, so as far as that goes, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't work for me either, to my chagrin, and probably won't ever work again unless I bow down to HAL.

If folkenfanel's using HAL, make sure you've got everything up to date, and with HAL running and given full reign, as sakho says, the patch should make it work.

Do let us know if you get it working, and if anything weird was involved.

Sasha
 
Old 08-17-2009, 10:44 PM   #109
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I believe this is what you're after:
Code:
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 
Old 08-18-2009, 06:42 AM   #110
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most everything works fine stock kernel with SIS760, except during a switch between users or end session, system hangs at a flashing cursor. no problem with a reboot or shutdown, just hangs up with a end session or switch user. running GXINE for playing a DVD has a bit of a glitch where i get herringbone distortion of the picture except when i use a small view window. if i upsize the window or go fullscreen, i get herringbone distortion of the picture, with the number of segments related to how much bigger the view is to the small stable window. in full screen it looks like a double image..... don't know if this has anything to do with xorg or the codec, haven't really investigated it much yet.
 
Old 08-18-2009, 12:14 PM   #111
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Hi:

Intel 82865G and none of the drivers provided in slack-current worked for me.
I can't start x, it gets to the kde bootsplash and freezes there. i have to make a hard reboot.
This is with and without a xorg.conf
if i try to do telinit 4 it fires up kdm but then it accepts no input.
Hope somebody can help.

Thanks ind advance.


Joel
 
Old 08-18-2009, 03:36 PM   #112
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I hate to say this, but it appears as if the 82865 chipsets are simply not going to work with 13.0 :/ There's nothing we can do about it either, it seems -- there have been numerous reports of it not working, and I can't find any indication of anything we're doing wrong. If someone has the inclination the bring it up on the xorg mailing list, feel free - I'm subscribed there, so I'll participate as needed.
 
Old 08-18-2009, 03:57 PM   #113
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I hate to say this, but it appears as if the 82865 chipsets are simply not going to work with 13.0 :/ There's nothing we can do about it either, it seems -- there have been numerous reports of it not working, and I can't find any indication of anything we're doing wrong. If someone has the inclination the bring it up on the xorg mailing list, feel free - I'm subscribed there, so I'll participate as needed.
I re-installed Slack 12.2 and played around a bit to be sure the Intel driver in 12.2, and the machine, worked OK for me before I used Slackpkg to upgrade to 13. It certainly shows no sign of working beyond freezing after loading the KDE initialization screen, with either 2.8.0 or 2.7.1 (the earlier revs don't even get that far and 2.7.1 showed video glitches). My attempt to use a later kernel got me a bit further on (see previous) but it still froze up after being in the desktop for a bit. I didn't manage to recompile the drivers and the X server etc against the new kernel. Maybe it would help to use a later kernel with everything rebuilt against it - but that's not guaranteed and it would delay 13 quite a bit longer I expect. Have Fedora and/or SUSE - or any distro - got the 2.8.0 to work?
 
Old 08-19-2009, 05:16 PM   #114
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Talking Hi there (and thanks to Sasha and Robby)

Hi

I am not bowing down to HAL so that could be the problem. And yes, that seems to be the problem as the fdi seems designed to work with the standard kb and not the acpi standard kb.

I know that putting Robby's line somewhere inside startkde makes it work; but it still won't make it work even from kdm, as it used to be (and probably should be).

I am hereby modifying my hal.

By the way, Johnny, when I tested KDE 4 it gave me lots of trouble until I disabled compositing (KDE4 enables compositing by default).

Try this

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection

I have an Intel 865 box, which is being used by my brother right now, so if you want to try...
 
Old 08-19-2009, 07:20 PM   #115
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I Folkenfanel:
Do you mean that you have an intel 865 box and you can startx????
If so can you post your xorg.conf to compare????
I have that option in my xorg.conf and with the 2.7.99.901 driver at least kde starts but after loading the desktop it freezes..
Can you post your xorg.conf of that machine????
Thanks ind advance.
 
Old 08-19-2009, 08:43 PM   #116
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Hmm... I used slackpkg to upgrade to the latest -current packages today, and logging out of X seemed to stop working. When I log out of Xfce and TWM, I don't get KDM back. Instead I get a black screen with a blinking ASCII dash at the top left corner, which stays there forever. The HD light does not blink. At that stage, I can still switch to other virtual consoles. Pressing the power button initiates the shutdown sequence. However, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE does nothing when I'm at that point.

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Old 08-19-2009, 09:00 PM   #117
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Hmm... X seemed to stop working.
I had a similar issue after updating the kernel. A recompile of my NVIDIA driver got things back on track.
 
Old 08-19-2009, 09:22 PM   #118
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For the record, Xorg -current is working fine for me here. Just checked my update status via rsync and it's up to date (though I think it's relevant to mention I'm not running the stock 64-current kernel, but my 2.6.30.5 version). Also, I'm using the nVidia binary driver.

kdesu even works (sorta) after 3 or 4 password rejections

Sasha
 
Old 08-20-2009, 12:45 AM   #119
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When I log out of Xfce and TWM, I don't get KDM back. Instead I get a black screen with a blinking ASCII dash at the top left corner, which stays there forever.
Did a few more tests. It happened every time I used kdm. It didn't make a different whether the wm was kde, xfce or twm. I also created a new user account just for testing this, but it didn't make a difference.

Logging out continued to work if I started X from the command line, though, and it worked if I used xdm instead of kdm. So I switched to xdm.
 
Old 08-20-2009, 02:00 AM   #120
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When I log out of Xfce and TWM, I don't get KDM back. Instead I get a black screen with a blinking ASCII dash at the top left corner, which stays there forever.
Hi, this might not be the same but I had a similar problem with Intel driver 2.8.0 and kernel 2.6.30 (without KMS). I "fixed" it by uncommenting line "TerminateServer=true" in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc (so kdm terminates the server process in the end of the session and starts another one for the next session). But then, every now and then, I had another problem that when I tried to log in (in kdm), the keyboard produced capitals when caps lock was off, and small letters when caps lock was on, and I could not type Enter at all. So I changed back to Intel driver 2.7.1 which has not shown this problem nor the session termination problem. Google found another report of the termination problem of Intel driver 2.8.0, which should only show on kernel 2.6.30 both with and without KMS and on kernel 2.6.29 with KMS but NOT on kernel 2.6.29 without KMS (like in Slackware current).
 
  


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