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Old 06-24-2022, 10:14 AM   #1
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Question Why do you always have to reinstall the system on a new "PC"?


One of the things I love Debian for is that it is hardware independent. You simply put the drive into your new computer, or you make a copy of the partition and restore it to the new drive on a completely different computer... AND THE OPERATING SYSTEM BOOTS UP WITHOUT PROBLEMS, JUST AS FAST!
But why doesn't it work like that on openSUSE or anything like Mandriva? Why can't it be this good!
I don't think there is a better operating system than "Mandriva"/Mageia, general terms, but this is a big flaw.
 
Old 06-24-2022, 01:01 PM   #2
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You left out a bunch. Are both of them UEFI? Both the same hardware? Same processor? Same drive configuration? UEFI setup all the same? Both have secure boot disabled etc?

You probably can move the hard disk from one machine to another. But you may need to use a live media to edit the fstab, grub, rebuild the kernel, rebuild the intram etc.

https://www.openmandriva.org/en/doc/
https://doc.opensuse.org/
 
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Old 06-24-2022, 01:23 PM   #3
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One of the things I love Debian for is that it is hardware independent. You simply put the drive into your new computer, or you make a copy of the partition and restore it to the new drive on a completely different computer... AND THE OPERATING SYSTEM BOOTS UP WITHOUT PROBLEMS, JUST AS FAST! But why doesn't it work like that on openSUSE or anything like Mandriva? Why can't it be this good! I don't think there is a better operating system than "Mandriva"/Mageia, general terms, but this is a big flaw.
Sorry, this is plain wrong.

Unless, (as teckk rightly points out), the architecture is different, it just works. I've done it with RHEL, CentOS, openSUSE, Fedora, and Ubuntu. Zero issues. Unless it's a 64bit install on a 32bit machine, or non-UEFI vs UEFI, it just works.
 
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:57 PM   #4
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Oh no!
🟡 Biostar 2006 Sempron 64... fail!
🟡 Acer Aspire One 2010 Atom 64... fail!
🟡 Notebook Intel Atom 64 CedarView 2012... fail!
🟡 ASRock AMD Phenom™ II X4 64 2018... fail!
all (Mageia, PCLinuxOS, openSUSE) ending "Kernel panic"?




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Sorry, this is plain wrong.

Unless, (as teckk rightly points out), the architecture is different, it just works. I've done it with RHEL, CentOS, openSUSE, Fedora, and Ubuntu. Zero issues. Unless it's a 64bit install on a 32bit machine, or non-UEFI vs UEFI, it just works.

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Old 06-24-2022, 10:04 PM   #5
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Indeed, but not even Linus Torvalds, himself would be willing to do so many McGyverisms, if everything is going great with Debian!

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You left out a bunch. Are both of them UEFI? Both the same hardware? Same processor? Same drive configuration? UEFI setup all the same? Both have secure boot disabled etc?

You probably can move the hard disk from one machine to another. But you may need to use a live media to edit the fstab, grub, rebuild the kernel, rebuild the intram etc.

https://www.openmandriva.org/en/doc/
https://doc.opensuse.org/
 
Old 06-25-2022, 06:38 PM   #6
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Oh no!
🟡 Biostar 2006 Sempron 64... fail!
🟡 Acer Aspire One 2010 Atom 64... fail!
🟡 Notebook Intel Atom 64 CedarView 2012... fail!
🟡 ASRock AMD Phenom™ II X4 64 2018... fail!
all (Mageia, PCLinuxOS, openSUSE) ending "Kernel panic"?
Sorry, just no. I've done this so many times I can't count them...never had a problem unless it was with VERY specific hardware. Gone from desktops to laptops and vice-versa, with several different distros. If you're having problems, you must be...special.
 
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Old 06-25-2022, 09:49 PM   #7
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Heh heh heh... the last time I downloaded the "live" iso of Mageia 8, it didn't even boot, something similar happened to me with Ubuntu Mate, it got stuck with "squashed file system"!
That's why I'm not surprised that when I change PCs, they usually fail.
So I had to install Mageia, over the net, in my "Lenovo ThinkCentre M78" drawer, which indeed "is quite special" with its motherboard!


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Sorry, just no. I've done this so many times I can't count them...never had a problem unless it was with VERY specific hardware. Gone from desktops to laptops and vice-versa, with several different distros. If you're having problems, you must be...special.
 
  


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