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Old 08-04-2020, 06:21 PM   #31
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One of those threads that seems to turn into anger. Where does it start????
Not sure if you're being rhetorical, or if you didn't get what Geist was trying to say, albeit a bit harshly.

It starts, as it always does, when someone asks a question and then ignores what they're told.
  • As soon as the OP provided details (post #5), they were told in VERY clear terms what to do (post #7).
  • They were told what the latest RHEL version was..yet asked again, and apparently didn't even TRY to look on the Red Hat website for the info.
  • All the way to post #20, where they RESTATE the question, and ask AGAIN what the latest RHEL version was.
  • They ignored the advice about using old RHEL 5, claiming they had to use it for the 'special code'
  • They ignored what they were told about Red Hat in general (with no subscription), then posted back ASKING about it, after it was previously explained.
  • They were asked why they couldn't use the same systems that the client was already using, yet didn't answer.
  • They were asked about the code, but didn't answer.
You can only offer so much help and ask so many questions without any sort of decent feedback, without getting frustrated. Myself, ondoho, rtmistler, Geist all tried...it gets old pretty quickly trying to help someone when they don't seem to want to participate in getting themselves help. As has been said many times on this site, this is NOT a help desk.

How often do we see posters who are VERY familiar with software (iptables for instance??) keep asking things that are just *SLIGHTLY* different? And who do it for YEARS?? If they know how to block one subnet, asking how to block another would seem pretty obvious. Yet, they continue posting time after time.

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Old 08-05-2020, 09:52 PM   #32
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WOW

Not sure where your anger is coming from, but it is coming thru loud and clear....

With all the posts I didnt notice system settings reply at first - when I had re-asked a question - sorry for my mistake.

Now as for some of your replies - they seemed kind of off - STOP !!!! your using an old out dated system !!!

Stop using RHEL without paying for it !!!! if my code was so good why can't it work on a newer system or why is such good code requiring middle mouse to execute it !!!! cmon tbone - most of your replies seem bitter for some reason...

I was a brand new person on this forum, I didnt understand how to use the forum - I apologized in advance for my newbie-ness.
I also didnt see a way to reply to an individual post -

I thought i explained why I was asking for the mouse menu and why it wasnt my system or my place to change other peoples OS.

And being brand new to this forum and RH - how would I know the mouse button menu editing would'nt be a similar procedure..

WOW !!!! I just figured it out - your angry at me because I could not find the "Add reputation Link" you wanted me to click after the first reply - well I still have not found that link either. I guess I'm a loser ....


btw system settings didnt have the middle mouse add item information...


So i am back where I started - using a really cool graphical icon as the link - the system users now prefer that - so let's just close this POST forever and no heart feelings - if you are willing to forgive

TBone and other posters -
I hope you and families are safe happy and well during this crazy covid period...

I wont be coming back here - this was a one time event - I really dont use RH systems - I did a bunch of people a big favor with the code
and since the icon launcher replaced the mouse button menu thing - on my end - I'm finished with that project....
 
Old 08-06-2020, 03:24 AM   #33
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Not sure where your anger is coming from, but it is coming thru loud and clear....
This is definitely true, TB0ne!
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I apologized in advance for my newbie-ness.
Many do that and think it entitles them to then lean back and let others do the work (which is physically impossible since we have neither telepathic nor telekinetic abilities).
 
Old 08-06-2020, 08:11 AM   #34
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Not sure where your anger is coming from, but it is coming thru loud and clear....

With all the posts I didnt notice system settings reply at first - when I had re-asked a question - sorry for my mistake. Now as for some of your replies - they seemed kind of off - STOP !!!! your using an old out dated system !!!

Stop using RHEL without paying for it !!!! if my code was so good why can't it work on a newer system or why is such good code requiring middle mouse to execute it !!!! cmon tbone - most of your replies seem bitter for some reason...
You appear to be missing the point. You were told, SPECIFICALLY, how to add a menu option...then kept asking how. You were told the latest versions of RHEL, yet asked what they were. If you ask a question and get an answer, then ignore it, why bother asking?? And do not mistake frustration with anger.
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I was a brand new person on this forum, I didnt understand how to use the forum - I apologized in advance for my newbie-ness. I also didnt see a way to reply to an individual post -
The "REPLY" button at the bottom of each post is a good place to start.
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I thought i explained why I was asking for the mouse menu and why it wasnt my system or my place to change other peoples OS. And being brand new to this forum and RH - how would I know the mouse button menu editing would'nt be a similar procedure..

WOW !!!! I just figured it out - your angry at me because I could not find the "Add reputation Link" you wanted me to click after the first reply - well I still have not found that link either. I guess I'm a loser ....
Nope; no one cares about that. Again, you are missing the entire point; you said it was YOUR code that needed RHEL 5, and that your client has 'other systems' that work fine, and were asked why you couldn't put your code on one of those systems. Still haven't told us, or told us what the clients other systems are running, or given ANY details, despite being asked several times. Again, when you're asked questions and given advice repeatedly but don't even seem to read the replies, is when people get frustrated.
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btw system settings didnt have the middle mouse add item information...
Incorrect; as said, you have to look around in there, as it is a sub-option under one of the main items. And again, as stated before, the current KDE has more options, because I find at least two places where I can assign such things. But again...you didn't/haven't told us what the other systems are running, with what desktop, etc.
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So i am back where I started - using a really cool graphical icon as the link - the system users now prefer that - so let's just close this POST forever and no heart feelings - if you are willing to forgive TBone and other posters - I hope you and families are safe happy and well during this crazy covid period...

I wont be coming back here - this was a one time event - I really dont use RH systems - I did a bunch of people a big favor with the codeand since the icon launcher replaced the mouse button menu thing - on my end - I'm finished with that project....
In my opinion, not much of a favor, if you are making them put an ancient system into production. But it's not my code, system, or client...personally, I'd have told you to come back with a current system.

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Old 08-06-2020, 08:14 AM   #35
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This is definitely true, TB0ne!
If you're reading anger into what I write, I cannot help that. Certainly isn't any..frustration? Absolutely.
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Many do that and think it entitles them to then lean back and let others do the work (which is physically impossible since we have neither telepathic nor telekinetic abilities).
And I wouldn't even touch such a system, even if we were approached to maintain it, because it's a bad idea. I wouldn't want my company's name to have anything to do with such a 'solution'.
 
Old 08-06-2020, 09:39 AM   #36
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Not sure where your anger is coming from
You: "Hey guys I just bound a menu to the middle mouse button on my Linux distro and I would like to add a 'code' to this menu which my client has used on previous OSes but I don't know how!"

Us: "Could you tell us some details?"

You: "No, not really. I literally know basically nothing except the name and version of my distro. I figured Linux would be easy, just add a line to a configuration."

Us: "Well then here have a menu where it works just like that."

You: "No I can't actually install any features. Also I still don't know how this works."

Us: "But you said you bound a menu to the middle mouse button, that means the menu is either a named command, or an external tool your system uses to spawn it. If it were not a named command or external tool then...you wouldn't be able to bind it! Can't you look that up? Furthermore, why not bind the 'code' you are talking about directly to the middle mouse if that's the important bit anyway. "

You: -Sidesteps this very important point because that would be the end of it all, the Energy Vampirism, while making excuses and then going for some 'colorful graphics link' while dramatically going "WoW, where does the anger come from?!" -

But, yeah, nah. I assessed you accurately. Energy vampire concern troll who wants to taint Linux support groups by giving them cockamamie tasks. Shoo shoo.

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Old 08-06-2020, 10:27 AM   #37
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While I loathe to do this. Thread closed.

A topic people tend to bring up is how threads such as these appear to new posters.

Therefore using my position as a moderator to say that "this thread has become a poor one".

I've said many times in the past that discussions about the behaviors of posters where they are suspected trolls or help vampires, should be discussed in the Suggestions and Feedback forum. Unfortunately, leaving a thread open results in intended to be "clever" replies, or just repeated replies driving home all your points.

I see people putting in truckloads of effort to post long, revealing analysis about the history of the OP and the flow of this thread, in repetition.

Far easier to just leave the OP to their question where "you knew all along what their agenda was", by not answering at all. Or let someone else get pulled in.

Feel free to click report. While those for this forum do go to me, there are other Newbie moderators, as well as Jeremy and the whole team. They see them. Reports against me, I do not resolve, I let someone else, or Jeremy intervene.

If you want this thread re-opened, then state that in your report or any other requests/demands you have. Feel free to PM or email me if you wish, or use the Contact Us link below to discuss with Jeremy.
 
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