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Old 05-14-2010, 11:40 AM   #16
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Then again even in windows I find it neccessary to use the terminal daily.
Me too; I always configure Quick Launch with a shortcut to cmd.exe and Explorer's folders with a context menu item "Open command prompt here" -- for both Administrator and the day-to-day user.
 
Old 05-14-2010, 11:42 AM   #17
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The reason a lot of tutorials prefer to use CLI examples rather than GUI alternatives is because it's easier to write instructions referring to commands you need to type in a terminal as opposed to click this, drag that, click that etc. Also, it's easier to ensure accuracy and avoid misunderstandings.

Which, after all, is one of the advantages of the CLI. Efficiency.
I'm note sure I would agree with this. Manuals and tutorials should normally tell you the best way to do something---without regard to the difficulty of explaining it. The best documentation will tell you about ALL of your options--eg for something like file management.

For some things, CLI is best---assuming that you know the commands.

For other things, the GUI is best (taking the files example---there are certain kinds of operations that I can do MUCH FASTER in something like Dolphin with a split window--than I could ever do in a terminal.
 
Old 05-14-2010, 02:42 PM   #18
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I would like to know if there is an GUI alternative to all the commands in terminal... probably a list of all GUI apps
 
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I would like to know if there is an GUI alternative to all the commands in terminal...
That's easy---NO!!

Look at all the executable files in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, etc. and tell us why anyone would want GUI front-ends for all of them.

The main purpose of a GUI application is to provide an easy interface for a complex application. While there may be exceptions, you would not expect to find a GUI for the simple things---especially if the motive is just to avoid learning the commands....

But--using something like dialog or zenity, it's very easy to put GUI front-ends on just about anything.
 
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I'm looking at the cute checkered flag under your name.......

Have you actually tried Linux yet? If not, may I suggest that you do it--now! This will surely help you get the answers to your questions.
 
Old 05-14-2010, 03:12 PM   #21
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Hi..

Im not sort of into programming and I dont like the command line screen...

I want to know is it possible to work without the need of Terminal, do everything in GUI?!!!!!

Which is the best distro that comes atleast close to acheiving this?!
No problemo.

Just read this: http://fruttenboel.verhoeven272.nl/linux/kdm.html

What it comes down to: make sure your system boots into runlevel 4. To do that, change ONE letter in '/etc/inittab' and you're done.
 
Old 05-14-2010, 03:18 PM   #22
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The command line is like 2000 extra programs,
or say 2000 buttons, you might be able click with the mouse.

But much more handy : Type two to four letters,
and very complex actions are handled in a sec.


Most of the commands have aditional options.
From a few to one hundred.


Imagine, you would use the most common fifty commands,
+ an average of five option for each.

Where would you place 250 buttons ? Sorted in some Menus,
it would take much longer time to find, than typing a few letters.
Conclusion: The command line is extremely powerful, compared to "GUI".
..
 
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That's easy---NO!!

But--using something like dialog or zenity, it's very easy to put GUI front-ends on just about anything.
In a way you are right. But more and more tools are GUI-ified. Kubuntu and other candy-cane-linuxes need them to convince Windows users that there is an alternative to 'The 7'. I mention K3B. I still remember doing my CD's via the command line. But k3b offers so much flexibility, that I do not use mkisofs and cdrecord anymore.

I drive a BMW R1150GS. I can also drive a bicycle. But the beemer brings me faster where I want to be. Same with k3b.

Look on the net. Find the GUI-ified equivalents and use them. Do not underestimate Konqueror. It's a do-all program that can do just about anything. Use it. Learn from it. And in a few years you will feel tempted to do thes ame with 'mc' in a terminal. And still later you will be typing command line commands....
 
Old 05-14-2010, 03:20 PM   #24
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PS:

I'm looking at the cute checkered flag under your name.......

Have you actually tried Linux yet? If not, may I suggest that you do it--now! This will surely help you get the answers to your questions.
i'm using ubuntu 9.10 64bit and win xp(dual boot), was a real pain just to get the nvidia driver work and had to spend 3 days to get my 5.1 channel audio system to work... i followed so many tutorials, ran so many commands in Terminal.. now i cant even remember what i did to get these things work. This is one of the reason why i havent updated to 10.04. I fear i might have to go thru this trauma again
 
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What it comes down to: make sure your system boots into runlevel 4.
This is ok for Slackware, but I believe most other distributions use 5 for a GUI. Also, I think Debian based distributions may use 2 (though I'm not sure if this is/was the case, I just think I remember this from when I tried Debian).
 
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I would like to know if there is an GUI alternative to all the commands in terminal... probably a list of all GUI apps
First, Ubuntu has a GUI to install software. Most people (me included) prefer the terminal because it's easier and more generic.

Also, there is a huge difference in the way GUI and CLI tools are used.

CLI tools can be linked and piped together to do complex, repetitive tasks automatically.

So in the end, the reason Linux users use the command line is not because the GUI is inferior (in fact I think it's better than the Windows GUI), but because the command line gives you far more power, versatility, and control.

If you want to learn more, read the tutorials linked to in my sig.
 
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I believe that there isnt a 'standard' when it comes to Linux.. So many different ways to do one task... I think that's the advantage of Linux!
 
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I believe that there isnt a 'standard' when it comes to Linux.. So many different ways to do one task... I think that's the advantage of Linux!
The multitude of Linuxes is what makes things fun. But also the main factor why Linux will NEVER threaten Micro$oft. The war between the (users of the) various Linuxes benefits Micro$not.

In fact: the best thing to happen to Linux may be that Micro$oft publish their own version of Linux. Call it Billix. Or Gate6.

With 20 odd versions competing against eachother, Linux cannot make a fist against the 'competition'.

When two dogs fight for a bone, the third one grabs it for home.

The third dog may be Google. And their bone may be Android. I don't like Google. They're dangerous hypocrites. Read this: http://fruttenboel.verhoeven272.nl/various/google.html Let's hope the civil war among the penguinistas soon stops.
 
Old 05-14-2010, 03:45 PM   #29
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@knudfl: You are right... but how is MS able to do this?!.. For example, MMC can be used to do any admin tasks without the need of using command prompt..
 
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The multitude of Linuxes is what makes things fun. But also the main factor why Linux will NEVER threaten Micro$oft. The war between the (users of the) various Linuxes benefits Micro$not.

In fact: the best thing to happen to Linux may be that Micro$oft publish their own version of Linux. Call it Billix. Or Gate6.

With 20 odd versions competing against eachother, Linux cannot make a fist against the 'competition'.

When two dogs fight for a bone, the third one grabs it for home.

The third dog may be Google. And their bone may be Android. I don't like Google. They're dangerous hypocrites. Read this: http://fruttenboel.verhoeven272.nl/various/google.html Let's hope the civil war among the penguinistas soon stops.
Google has its own open source called chromium OS which is due to be released probably end of the year..
 
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