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Old 09-12-2015, 09:13 AM   #1
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I am very new to linux and installing i need help


I am going at a later time to set my own computer up with linux mint. but my mother wanted one of my computers that is junk. So rather then keep win7 on an xp system. I said i will wipe it and install ubuntu. It is light and easy to use for most windows normal people.

but when i went to install clamav i get this error and have no idea how to understand the topic here that explains how to do it see my link at the bottom for the problem and the topic i need someone to break down for me. it also says in one of the clamav logs not loading pua signatures no cool what that means but it was an error last night.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...g-file-397175/

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one other thing I went to install wine so i can install MWB and i got an error something about ms not there and will make a fatal error that will stop wine from working at all.

can someone help me fix that as well please. it will make life easyer on me and my mother who never touched linux before.


thank you guys

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:20 AM   #2
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Hi,
welcome to Linux and this forum. We're happy to have you around
For starters, Ubuntu is a great choice. Xubuntu would have been better because it's lighter still, but Ubuntu is a good option. Clamav (or any other anti virus) is not really needed. Secondly, if you found clamav in your repo, the system should in theory set things up right for you...
So the question is: where did you find the clamav? Stick to the repo is possible, it's your guarantee for safe(st) software...
So, a quote (the closing remark it seems) from the other thread:
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In Gentoo ClamAv worked first time out of the box.
Let's go there first. Clean install: check. User set up right: check (I hope). Clamav from the repo: check...
Thor
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:29 AM   #3
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i got it from here.

http://www.linux.org/threads/malware...or-linux.4455/

so i am wondering if something went wrong or not. I have the two log files. but no sign of a program icon or even the power to scan with clamav or fix what i am trying.

what did i do wrong?
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:30 AM   #4
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Hi,
welcome to Linux and this forum. We're happy to have you around
For starters, Ubuntu is a great choice. Xubuntu would have been better because it's lighter still, but Ubuntu is a good option. Clamav (or any other anti virus) is not really needed. Secondly, if you found clamav in your repo, the system should in theory set things up right for you...
So the question is: where did you find the clamav? Stick to the repo is possible, it's your guarantee for safe(st) software...
So, a quote (the closing remark it seems) from the other thread:

Let's go there first. Clean install: check. User set up right: check (I hope). Clamav from the repo: check...
Thor
how do i check that?
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:33 AM   #5
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Clean install : obviously, you just did the install
User set up : you had to provide a password...so, that seems okay...
Clamav in the repo : depends. How did you get hold of that package? Did you download it from the net? Or did you use the repo?
All beginnings are hard, I had to recompile the Kernel, and I'd never seen Linux before
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:39 AM   #6
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Clean install : obviously, you just did the install
User set up : you had to provide a password...so, that seems okay...
Clamav in the repo : depends. How did you get hold of that package? Did you download it from the net? Or did you use the repo?
All beginnings are hard, I had to recompile the Kernel, and I'd never seen Linux before
I never did the clean install i am asking how do i do the clean install again?
I used that line that is in the av and malware protection link i posted so i do not know.
 
Old 09-12-2015, 09:59 AM   #7
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I never did the clean install i am asking how do i do the clean install again?
Ya just did. See? Linux (Ubuntu in particular) is easier than you possibly thought LOL
As you mentioned:
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I said i will wipe it and install ubuntu.
You used that one?
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apt-get install clamav clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam clamav-unofficial-sigs && freshclam && service clamav-daemon start
If so, you're safe
So, next hurdle...getting the thing to work...
Can you post the error here? Thanks...
Thor
 
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Ya just did. See? Linux (Ubuntu in particular) is easier than you possibly thought LOL
As you mentioned:

You used that one?

If so, you're safe
So, next hurdle...getting the thing to work...
Can you post the error here? Thanks...
Thor
how do i screen shot it i will do that and post it here so you can read it


ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:29 PM   #9
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bumping still need help
 
Old 09-12-2015, 10:32 PM   #10
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Does Ubuntu boot and work?
Why do you need ClamAV?
After which commands do you see the errors you showed?
 
Old 09-12-2015, 11:35 PM   #11
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Does Ubuntu boot and work?
Why do you need ClamAV?
After which commands do you see the errors you showed?
when i try to update the program.

Does Ubuntu boot and work?

yes

Why do you need ClamAV?

why not av protection

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Old 09-12-2015, 11:51 PM   #12
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There are better threads on here but try this one for a start:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...tu-4175519302/
If you're convinced you need to check for malicious software then things like RKHunter, Tiger, Tripwire, SELinux and other things might be worth looking at.
 
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Ehm, I have to concur with 273, a virusscanner is not really needed in Linux. Can I explain?
Wit Linux, you log in with a package of user rights. A virus inherits these rights as it enters the system via your account. You use the Net, a virus sits in your user space, there...same rights. Being a "program" in Linux does NOT guarantee you can be executed. Programs can arrive without execute rights...consider this...
Ever seen this?
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drwxr-xr-x  2 ploop users      48 13.09.2015 15:10 folder2/
-r--------  1 ploop users 2883418 14.06.2015 18:27 Hebot-II.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 ploop users     225 01.06.2015 10:56 img.py
-rw-r--r--  1 ploop users      50 21.04.2015 12:40 what.sh
the "d" denotes a folder, program what.sh is a program (well, a script, more precisely, but that's essentially a program too)...yet, executing it results in this:

Code:
[ploop@Avalon Stuff]$ ./what.sh
bash: ./what.sh: Permission denied
...however, when I do this
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chmod +x what.sh
the real magic happens...it becomes...executable...
Whenever "something" enters the system, and the X is not on, it's not on...no execution, period.
Now, let's assume (by some misfortune) the darn thing does start up. It reads the system start up file/script. But...only if YOU also have that right...
Okay...so it has a COPY of the startup, it fiddles around and alters the script so it executes along with the rest at start up...basically infecting the system...
Next...the write-back. But, wait...you dont have that right...do you? Hehe, neither does the bugger...it's dead in the water...
There it sits, unable to write back the altered start up script...
Chances are my hard drive is a graveyard of that stuff...
Now...***dows. Virus comes in and has exec rights, reads the startup, alters and writes back....***dows does'nt care.
Linux...does...
Trust me (and all of us) a virusscanner is great on (say) a mail server where you'd typically check/scan attachments...it is after all resposibility to someone to stop that stuff in its tracks...what better place than a server...
A desktop...rarely...
Use RKHunter, SELinux and the like, that is the Linux way to go
Thor

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For completeness, the likely reason the commands given by Thor_2.0 didn't work is because they all need to be run as root so need preceeding with sudo like this:
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sudo apt-get install clamav clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam clamav-unofficial-sigs && sudo freshclam && sudo service clamav-daemon start
 
Old 09-13-2015, 01:44 PM   #15
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For completeness, the likely reason the commands given by Thor_2.0 didn't work is because they all need to be run as root so need preceeding with sudo like this
Umm, indeed. I dot have SUDO on my box, I go su - ...but, indeed, root access is required....
 
  


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