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Old 04-13-2008, 09:49 AM   #1
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Input Signal Out of Range

When I try to run games, I get an error: Input signal out of range. I am running an nVidia 7800GS AGP card and this happens with both my F8 and Sidux 64-bit installs. No issues with my Debian 32-bit install. What could be the issue?
 
Old 04-13-2008, 10:43 AM   #2
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Games often want to run at 640x480 resolution.
When the game switches your card to this resolution, the Hsync & Vsync are being set incorrectly for your monitor, so it will not display the image, and displays "Input signal out of range".
You need to fix up your xorg.conf
 
Old 04-13-2008, 12:25 PM   #3
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Debian 32-bit

Code:
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "AOpen F1713"
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
    Driver         "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "Generic Video Card"
    Monitor        "AOpen F1713"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       1
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       4
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       15
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
Sidux 64-bit

Code:
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "AOpen F1713"
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "AOpen F1713"
    HorizSync       24.0 - 80.0
    VertRefresh     49.0 - 75.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    Option         "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"
    Option         "Coolbits" "1"
    Option         "RandRRotation" "1"
    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "1"
    Option         "TripleBuffer" "0"
    Option         "DynamicTwinView" "1"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 7800 GS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "Generic Video Card"
    Monitor        "AOpen F1713"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       1
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       4
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       15
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Videocard0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024_60 +0+0; 1280x1024 +0+0; 1280x960 +0+0; 1152x864 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 
     832x624 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "1"
#	Option      "RENDER"	"0"
    Option         "TexturedVideo" "on"
EndSection
Modules section the same
Last edited by Jongi; 05-17-2008 at 01:51 PM.
 
Old 04-13-2008, 12:40 PM   #4
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Debian works, the others don't.

In your debian xorg.conf, section Section "Monitor", you have not specified your HorizSync or VertRefresh, so it is probably asking the monitor what these values should be, and filling them in for you.

I suggest you either provide the correct sync details in the non-working distros, or you do not specify them at all. Search for monitor edid for further insight.
 
Old 04-13-2008, 04:43 PM   #5
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This shows that the xorg files have the correct synch rates
Last edited by Jongi; 05-17-2008 at 01:35 PM.
 
Old 05-17-2008, 01:50 PM   #6
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I've been looking at KDE Control Center (Debian 64-bit) and I've noticed that the problems start to occur when I want to go below 1024x768. What I've noticed is that default refresh rate it choose is the lowest it can find (typically in the high 50s). On this install the monitor section of my xorg.conf looks like this

Code:
Section "Monitor"
    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
#    VendorName     "Unknown"
#    ModelName      "AOpen F1713"
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection
So is there a way to force ALL resolutions to use a minimum refresh rate of 60Hz for instance. What is also interesting is that even if I use nvidia-settings to save the default refresh rate at 1280x1024 to 60Hz, when I run KDE Control Center it reports 50Hz.
 
Old 05-18-2008, 07:43 AM   #7
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The below added to the Devices section of the xorg.conf file means I can change freely between resolutions now

Code:
Option "ModeValidation" "NoXServerModes"
Thanks to this thread.


EDIT: The only reason why Debian 32-bit had no issues is because it was using the nVidia 100.14.19 driver whereas the others are using 169.12.
Last edited by Jongi; 05-18-2008 at 07:48 AM.
 
  


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