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Old 12-18-2002, 05:53 PM   #31
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hrm.

crashes?

never have them.
 
Old 12-18-2002, 08:02 PM   #32
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Originally posted by hackers_
moeminhtun you must be joking, you cant really be *that* retarded lol
Give him a break hacker_, moeminhtun is a Singaporean... dun play play aRRRR....
 
Old 12-18-2002, 10:14 PM   #33
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Well, no Guru gave me the satisfactory answer to my first question "why servers on the Linux are stable and some apps are not".
Some gurus are more willingly to defend for the Linux blindingly rather than giving the appropriate answers.

So I got to think on my own. I don't bother to ask them.

I'm sure the core Linux (without GUI) is stable. It is the best and it is text mode. Then on top of it, things like X-server, Graphical environments and libraries added for the graphical user interface. I think the problem must be in that graphical layer. And somemore a lot of distribution makes a lot of libraries variations, own modifications and all things mess up and some graphical applicaitons ends up unstable.
But the servers are running as background services in the console without using the graphical things so they are more or less stable.

Well I got the answer on my own and it is pretty easy.
:P
 
Old 12-18-2002, 10:33 PM   #34
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Originally posted by moeminhtun
Well, no Guru gave me the satisfactory answer to my first question "why servers on the Linux are stable and some apps are not".
Why are you looking for a stable servers but some unstable applications' distro????? confused

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Some gurus are more willingly to defend for the Linux blindingly rather than giving the appropriate answers.
Those posts are not defense, you are so far not offensive to us, anyone disagree?
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So I got to think on my own. I don't bother to ask them.
Ohh.... really???? Cool moe study by own arr???
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I'm sure the core Linux (without GUI) is stable. It is the best and it is text mode. Then on top of it, things like X-server, Graphical environments and libraries added for the graphical user interface. I think the problem must be in that graphical layer. And somemore a lot of distribution makes a lot of libraries variations, own modifications and all things mess up and some graphical applicaitons ends up unstable.
But the servers are running as background services in the console without using the graphical things so they are more or less stable.
You are brilliant about this...

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Well I got the answer on my own and it is pretty easy.
:P
Lemme give some opinion about this, there are some points you need to consider between a "stable but some apps unstable"'s desktop distro compared with a "stable but some apps unstable"'s server distro.

DO NOT take a personal edition or single user distro's to be run on mission critical servers. Use the proper server version, either a POSIX, UNIX or Solaris server.

For Linux, I recommend OpenBSD, Redhat Advanced Server 2.1, Mandrake XXX server (forgot the name) and as well as SunLinux 5. These distros are commercial distro, tested with commercial perspectives. If you visited BEA website and look at their servers compatible distro on Linux, you will find out that mostly are commercial distros.

Avoid using Debian, Slackware, Peanuts and those fancy core linux distros... (Disclaimer: no offense nor bashing here).

I am too tired to write some more.....
 
Old 12-19-2002, 03:13 AM   #35
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well I know you have no typing skills and typing is so tiring to you. You should go and sleep already.

because I've already got a formula.

Linux == text mode (without GUI)
Linux == stable

(xwindows + kde + gnome + bla.. + bla..+..) != Linux

if(Linux + (xwindows + Kde + gnome + bla.. + bla..))
buggy for GUI applications;
 
Old 12-19-2002, 03:21 AM   #36
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Gimme a scenario why you claim this, what is the reason? If you take the JEdit, sorry I dun meant to talk about that.

So far :

gigsvoo + linux + linux_gui + any_applications + any_java_stuff = no_problem
 
Old 12-19-2002, 03:54 AM   #37
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Ok.. ok..

Linux is good.
Linux is perfect.
Everything regarding to Linux is excellent.
There is not a single bug in Linux and Linux GUI.
I like it.

And although Java is running on the virtual machine it is not slow, very fast, as fast as the native language. (According to the gigsvoo )
 
Old 12-19-2002, 04:10 AM   #38
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Look, this is not the time and age to bashing each other, you said you have these problem, say it, describe it, tell us how it happened to the "unfortunate" lovely linux users but get pissed off when somebody tell their distros have no problem.

Show us where is the problem bugging u in your distro. For JEdit, it is considered solved (meaning either wait for new release of JEdit or upgrade JDK).... what other problem you have?

Also about these server thing, already given some little explanation and you come out with some funny equation, so had fun?
 
Old 12-20-2002, 12:42 PM   #39
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the thing is that it's always improving. everyday - 24 hours a day - parts are being worked on. yes it needs more work but the pace is awesome.

it takes a little time to learn the ropes but there are companies working hard to lessen this for future users.

instead of bitching about things that suck try learning a skill then using it to help a project. each person is important and needed.

there are standards coming down the road to help ease things like software installation. it's not going to stop. one can only image what will be available in another 5 years!

 
Old 12-20-2002, 01:04 PM   #40
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Yes. Macewan

I absolutely accept this answer and agree with you, and you are quite a reasonable person unlike someother who cannot see and think reasonable.
 
Old 12-20-2002, 09:59 PM   #41
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How does it make you understand much moe? I apologize if I hurt your feeling, all I trying to do is to help. If you still find "kiasu", stop using Linux and get back to Windows.

Until today, you have not give your problem description clear except for the JEdit topic right?

Ok, lets stop this arguement, you earnt all the credit you deserved. For a moment we are all trying to improve the quality of Linux based products isn't it? Why not we put down those unneccessary arguement and help improving products by any means, no matter big or small?

We could not keep on fighting where both are in the same line to support Linux-based right? All apologize given to you and I am telling the world about this.... so feeling better?
 
  


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