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Old 12-17-2002, 09:29 PM   #16
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If you want stability, try Slackware, Red Hat and Mandrake are nice and everythig with all of their gadget and nice looking distro specific stuff but Slackware has always been more stable and i guess faster too. Try Slack, and then try fluxbox, or if you want a more full loaded desktop try dropline, not that KDE isn't good, but I liked the dropline version of Gnome2 for slackware. I'll asure you that if you make a good installation of Slackware, it will not let you down, that way you can tell your friends to come to play with your pc againg.

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Old 12-17-2002, 09:33 PM   #17
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Yes, is the matter of choice. I still prefer Redhat 8, although it is a bulky software, but I have a assured box, Redhat distro won't be in a MOYO dark.

Noted: MOYO - Mind of your own
 
Old 12-17-2002, 09:35 PM   #18
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Microsoft JVM? Nobody think about it already.
Alternative JVM means, JVMs from IBM.

Well, the same code running on windows' JVM and solaris' JVM is perfect but crash on linux's JVM. What do you think whose problem it is?

Well, no matter what, Sun JVMs from Linux started only from 1.3 onward.
 
Old 12-17-2002, 09:48 PM   #19
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U said Sun JVM crashed on Linux and it is from 1.3 onwards, and how about JVMs from IBM? Crashed on Linux and version prior 1.3?

The least thing where if JVM crashed in Windows, is that be worst than crashing JVM in Solaris and Linux?

If you agree with the above point, who is the eldest here? Can I say Solaris is eldest, Windows comes elder and Linux come youngest in terms of active of development market. (Although Linux started far from 1970s)

So far have not encountered JVM crashed in Linux, mind to show me how that happened to you?
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:04 PM   #20
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I haven't tried the IBM JVM and I will not be going to try it because Java is from Sun, I understand that.

I'm not telling the overall JVM stability on different platform but I'm telling specifically on the Jedit.
I've been using JEdit for more than three years, I've never encountered JEdit crash on windows and solaris. And I believe that it is the same code for Linux and crash on jdk 1.3 something on Linux. I think it is clear enough.

well...
That's not only my problem.
JEdit officially has admitted on their website.
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:10 PM   #21
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Ok... if JDK1.3.x + JEdit + Linux = Crashed, then they are 3 possibilites for the culprite of the problem rite? So far running the same code created by JEdit, do a compilation and running w/o JEdit (using command line for both) with JDK1.3.x + Linux = ???

Then if it is not crashing, meaning JEdit is the culprite.

Come back to the issue JDK1.3.x + JEdit + Windows/Solaris = Stability...

If the first test on Linux proof that JEdit is the culprite, meaning the version of JEdit in Windows/Solaris is badly coded in Linux. So both JDK1.3.x (regardless platform) as well as the OS (Windows, Linux, Solaris) has nothing to do with the instability of JVMs rite?

Then under Linux, dun use JEdit... use something else. JEdit is not a GPL or FREE software rite? Why not try SunONE CE? It is FREE, compatible with JDK1.3.x and above and run well under Linux.... (tested by myself).
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:12 PM   #22
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Also, I tested IBM JVM on Windows.... perfect as well as in Linux.
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:27 PM   #23
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No. JEdit is open-sourse GPL.

I've tried CE before and I also have it but I seldom use it.
JEdit is amazingly highly customizable and a lot of features. It is plug-in base and there are a lot of plug-ins.
If you start using it for the first time, you will not know the difference because you don't know which plug-in is for what, good and bad, stuffs like that. But when you already know all the features and plug-ins, you can do everything you want with it.

And also ,it is getting popular and popular also in the Linux community.
There is also a review in this month, Linux format magazine.
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:35 PM   #24
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Oic... hahaha... did the magazine talk abt JEdit + JDK1.3 + Linux = Crashed???? Just a joke.

Perhaps you have to wait till the next patches or release or something.... good luck!
 
Old 12-17-2002, 10:41 PM   #25
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yeah!!!
And I will also wait the next version of JVM for Linux no matter what you say. :P
 
Old 12-17-2002, 11:42 PM   #26
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I am not penetrate you on using JEdit, does it supports JDK 1.4? Currently I am running JDK 1.4 so far no problem yet.
 
Old 12-18-2002, 12:12 AM   #27
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Their recommanded version is jdk1.4.1_01 for their latest version.

I haven't really tried Jdk1.4.1 + jedit on Linux yet. Last time I installed it but there was a lot of re-installation happening on my PC.

First I installed Mandrake 8.2 standard edition because I heard they say It is best for desktop. Then at the time, Redhat 8.0 released and I felt like using Redhat 8.0. So I clean-installed with Redhat 8.0. But my nVidia graphic card was not supported by Redhat so I tried to installed bymyself. But unfortunately I didn't read the instruction carefully. And there is no already-compile drivers yet on their website for redhat8.0. Actually I had to download the source version and had to compile with the kernal libraries. But I wrongly installed the redhat 7.3 driver. So the X-windows couldn't start. Then I read that redhat never support the non-GPL software so poorer hardware support than Mandrake. So I thought I'm using Linux for desktop and I want to play around with the other devices so better hardware support with Mandrake is more appropriate for me. So I re-install the Mandrake 8.2.

Then I found some instability on it and
Then a few days later, Mandrake totally crashed and couldn't start at all. So I'm quite disappointed and re-install Redhat 8.0.

Then a few days later, (I think sombody in my house shut down the PC improperly)
when I started Redhat, it checked the file integrity and then fail and it couldn't repair byitself. I also don't know how to repair. So I re-installed the Redhat again.

Then you know what happened? Installation failed. About 3 or 4 times I tried to install but failed. Then I thought the hard-disk problem and I bought a new hard-disk and installed it then failed again. (I think Redhat is poor in correcting fault file system, is it true?)

So I'm quite disappointed with Redhat 8.0 again and re-install the Mandrake 8.2. It could be installed successfully.

Then yestarday, I got Mandrake 9.0 from the Linux format magazine and I re-installed it.


That's my Linux histroy.

 
Old 12-18-2002, 12:27 AM   #28
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I think all these incident of your caused by some hardware. I never encounter redhat installation on the box i m writting now.

Seems like JEdit is quite attracting you, gimme the URL pls, I will prove JEdit is runnable under JDK1.4+Linux+JEdit = Success!

Redhat or any distro have journal filesystem that runs very good, the best for Redhat is ext3. I think the problem was caused by some faulty memory instead of HDD.

I been shutdown intentionally for few times. No problem to clean and fix filesystem. Also you need to know to use "root" privelage carefully.
 
Old 12-18-2002, 01:16 AM   #29
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www.jedit.org

I thought it could be stable with jdk1.4.x too.

Yeah it could be hardware problem.
Must wait and see with the current Mandrake 9.0.
 
Old 12-18-2002, 03:24 PM   #30
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moeminhtun you must be joking, you cant really be *that* retarded lol
 
  


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