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Old 12-11-2005, 10:21 AM   #1
m.r.bob
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unsatisfied dependencies for smart package manager on PClinuxOS


My unsatisfied dependencies for smart package manger according to KPackage are: rpm-python, python-psyco, rpmmodule.so Yes this package is specifically for PClinuxOS.
So does anyone know where I could find this stuff?
Also, I'm surprised that there isn't a specific forum for PClinuxOS yet...
EDIT: Damn, this should be in the mandriva section shouldn't it.
Another edit:
popt >= 1.8.3
python >= 2.4
rpm= 4.2.3-9mdk
python-base >= 2.4
Those are required by rpm-python...

Forget all this.
What I need is a package manager that can install smart package manager's HUGE dependency tree (I actually made a subtaintial dent in it though).
The thing is I want SPM to take care of problems like this.
It's like needing a complier to complie a complier...

Last edited by m.r.bob; 12-11-2005 at 07:10 PM.
 
Old 01-15-2006, 09:50 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by m.r.bob
My unsatisfied dependencies for smart package manger according to KPackage are: rpm-python, python-psyco, rpmmodule.so Yes this package is specifically for PClinuxOS.
So does anyone know where I could find this stuff?
Also, I'm surprised that there isn't a specific forum for PClinuxOS yet...
EDIT: Damn, this should be in the mandriva section shouldn't it.
Another edit:
popt >= 1.8.3
python >= 2.4
rpm= 4.2.3-9mdk
python-base >= 2.4
Those are required by rpm-python...

Forget all this.
What I need is a package manager that can install smart package manager's HUGE dependency tree (I actually made a subtaintial dent in it though).
The thing is I want SPM to take care of problems like this.
It's like needing a complier to complie a complier...

since you posted the smart home page, look a bit further down to documentation. there are 2 howtos for suse and one for mandriva. i wrote the 2 howtos for suse. in my howtos, i tell you exactly how and what to look for. the howto with the screen shots is the most comprehensive. http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikk...a=Installation


naturally, you'll want to substitute suse mirrors for pclinuxos mirrors. also try using rpm.pbone.net/ and rpmfind.net

Last edited by linux_learner; 01-15-2006 at 09:53 AM.
 
Old 01-15-2006, 05:23 PM   #3
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rpm-python and python-psyco are on the PCLinuxOS repos, you should install them using synaptic. A file ending .so or .so.n (n is a number) is not an rpm but a library file hopefully installed by one of the other rpms.

However, I have followed a debate on the PCLinuxOS development e-mail list, and the conclusion has been that "smart" is not suitable for PCLinuxOS at this stage. So your rpm is a third party one, not supported at PCLOS.

Is there any advantage to using Smart? All PCLOS official rpms are at its repos and accessible via Synaptic, which is a user-friendly front end for apt4rpm. What more do you need?
 
Old 01-16-2006, 05:37 AM   #4
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Is there any advantage to using Smart? All PCLOS official rpms are at its repos and accessible via Synaptic, which is a user-friendly front end for apt4rpm. What more do you need?

i believe so. i started out with mandrake, so i am familiar with urpmi. i remember the days before pclinuxos, and i remember when pclinuxos was brand new.

smart doesnt seem to have dependancy issue like urpmi. i could point you to the case studies, but they dont compare smart against urpmi.

you can import your apt sources.list to smart. smart can use both apt sources, as well as official pclinuxos mirrors.

my howto really goes into alot of this, while the installation is for suse, the commands and usage are the same. http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikk...PackageManager

smart install --stepped <packagename> can be really usefull, as it asks for confirmation each step of the way.

you can also update a specific channel.

the way smart uses mirrors, it automatically determines the best mirror(s) and will use that. if one goes down, smart will switch to it. smart can resume downloads.

there are alot of features smart offers that urpmi or apt dont.
 
Old 01-16-2006, 02:04 PM   #5
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I would have thought that any dependency problems in PCLinuxOS using Synaptic would be due to packaging errors. Such errors are rare, and generally fixed within days if reported to the PCLinuxOS forum.

If you want to use Smart, it's up to you, but as it is not supported at PCLinuxOS at this time, you're on your own!
 
Old 01-16-2006, 04:41 PM   #6
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yes smart isnt supported at this time by any distro that i know of. however, the smart case studies show how smart out performs apt and yum. there have not been any case studies that i know of between smart and urpmi. i can tell you from my experience with urpmi, smart beats it.

http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikk...artcasestudies

do keep in mind, that smart is still considered beta, but smart is developed by the same guy who developed synaptic. i would advise that anyone using smart should be an experienced veteran, ready and able to contend with bugs. so far, we have encountered very few bugs, but perhaps with more people testing smart, we can do more debugging. smart is remarkably stable for beta. the one serious bug we saw, pertained to the suse system, which turned out not to be a smart bug, but a race condition in rpm. this has been addressed by the suse devel team and will be fixed by the next release of suse. other distros were not affected by this bug.

on the other hand, i would like to see more adventureous n00bs testing smart, because software needs to be developed with effectiveness, thoroughness and ease of use in mind. the smart list can be found http://tracker.labix.org/issue?@sort...2,3,4,5,6,7,10

so the main caution i would give is, be ready to deal with possible bugs. if your not willing to deal with that, dont do smart. otherwise, we really need people to test it.

i have found pclinuxos documentation. it was done at the pclinuxos forum. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules...=6818&forum=18

smart is included in the pclinux iso's.

Last edited by linux_learner; 01-16-2006 at 09:06 PM.
 
  


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