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in guns "we" trust

Wow! @OregonJim

I thought I was the one who didn't read through enough, do you know what comprehension means? I would guess you think yes so define god or make up some excuse not to because outside of fairy tales and folklore you cannot!?

If I'd ever believe killing an answer, it should be sacrifice the many to save the few but... I'm not 18!

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Wow! @OregonJim I thought I was the one who didn't read through enough, do you know what comprehension means? I would guess you think yes so define god or make up some excuse not to because outside of fairy tales and folklore you cannot!?

??? Can you speak a bit more clearly? Comprehension of what?

To answer (what appears to be) your question, here's a start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOvmsYDC1RA

This guy is a bit more diplomatic than my skills allow me to be. And it helps me to avoid a bunch of typing. But, I suspect, like enorbet, you are not interested in an answer. So here's more stuff for you to poke fun at.

Just about to watch but had to stop for a sec to put this: there are only infinite answers to that question, thus false unless blind!.

Pausing it again now after a few more second so I can download, to seed it up with VLC, seems it's 1.5 hours long... "hope" it is worth it? lol

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Just about to watch but had to stop for a sec to put this: there are only infinite answers to that question, thus false unless blind!.

Way to go! Make your presupposition along with a foregone conclusion before you even hear the argument! Atheist logic at work here!

Don't push it, I am listing to him preach now! I would be farther in but stoped to see his schools, could not find, wonder why? Dose a PHD count from a religion? ROTFL okay seriously I'll be back (again. )

Okay, he is just introductions... to all religious schools.

Love how religious zealots always have insanely huge families, like gluttonous cults or viruses.

He's not getting to far with me: How does "Agnostic and skeptic not believe there's a god,,," they believe there could be?

Gods\sins are not morality because some books and he say so!

17 minutes into this preaching torture and his biggest argument so far is, "we can not live without religion"!? WTF?

His next big argument is that there was a beginning to time and space, where as science calls this a theory! Got it? No! Now he + said, If there's no end to time there must be a beginning...

...sorry but he's a preacher using blind faith to teach blind faith and that's all you got!

Nobody died or got married, I want my hour back.

facts (like me sitting on this table) and opinions, infinite amounts of opinions. We are not born into facts. We learn them or not? We are born into opinions and unlearn them or not?

I seem to remember Someone talking about "people like that." Saying that "verily, they have received all the 'reward' they're ever gonna get," while instructing us to "pray in secret."

Originally Posted by jamison20000e He's not getting to far with me: How does "Agnostic and skeptic not believe there's a god,,," they believe there could be?

Saying you "don't know" is not a "belief". A lot of things you don't know about "could" be true, but you hold no beliefs about them. So, agnostics and skeptics don't believe in God, just like atheists. The only thing atheists add is a belief that God can't be real.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e ...sorry but he's a preacher using blind faith to teach blind faith and that's all you got!

He's not a preacher, either. You seem to think that anyone who speaks about God is a preacher. There is no blind faith in anything he said.

No, that's not all I have by a long shot. But, that's all you'll get. It's one thing to have an open discussion - it's another to feed off of others for your own entertainment.



Matthew 7:6:
Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.

Psalms 14:1:
The fool says in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds,
there is none who does good.

Romans 1:20:
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Especially when opinions thus infinite answers: "not believe" and "maybe believe" are not the same unless you speech for all? Once again is definitions\opinions not facts! Believe is a opinionated definition not a fact... [SIZE="7000000000"]don't look it up in your books,,, look it up in OURS!!![/SIZE]

...but, you can not; or, answer this:
Can you imagine your life had you been born in a Buddhist family (or any other religions,) you know like many are; still waiting on that definition of god too?!
Of course not! Believing others beliefs, would disproved your beliefs. As (again) they aren't facts!

Matthew 7:6: Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. Psalms 14:1: The fool says in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good. Romans 1:20: For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Your both preachers and with such an evil book!

We don't need to kill the killing sinners (mirror) as killing the many to save the few would be smarter, evolution's got it; quick in god they trust give the young minds more guns and bombs!

Add: So what your saying is a religious could never handle an atheist preacher, because who would want a better world?

Totally divorced from all the discussions going on, just peek in from time to time and ultimately un-subscribe because I just don't have, or wish to put in the horsepower to bother arguing all this. Instead I'll enjoy life and wait to see what happens once my heart stops beating.

However probably the main reason why I don't read and parrot all the scripture thingys is because there are tons of them, people find them to suit what they wish to say, and many of them are largely open to interpretation.

I sit here and wonder what the bleep that thing is about dogs and pigs, and don't care. Matthew got bit by a dog and got knocked down by a pig on his visit to the farm. So he's bitter.

Someone claims there's no God, they are introduced as a fool just for starters. I submit that this same attitude claims that anyone who doesn't agree with EXACTLY the first arguer's agenda, is thus classified as "a fool", nice. It is my experience that this is exactly the attitude that it is promoting, intolerance. Therefore "let's go burn some books!"

Whatever that third one says, it is as obtuse as the first one. And don't bother, I'm not interested in your interpretations, I have my own mind, and have already said that I find it wasteful to view some drabble such as that and make it into some life changing thing.

Matthew 7:6:
Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.

Psalms 14:1:
The fool says in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds,
there is none who does good.

Romans 1:20:
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Lookout for flying stones. At least here they are metaphorical (if that's a thing? )