How come every linux newbie seems to know about KDE but not Gnome?? Anytime I talk to a newbie about linux they have all kinds of KDE questions/inquiries and they have never even used linux.

Where do they get this KDE info? :confuseD: It really bugs me.. cause I dont like KDE.. Im just wondering why gnome doesn't get the attention from newbies like KDE does?

anyone care to explain?

When I started using linux... I used RH9 which looked almost exactly the same if I used KDE or gnome.. so I never really knew the differnce between the two until I vetured away from RH9.

Well, I do have a theory on the subject. What's the first thing that most people recommend to someone who's interested in learning about Linux? The answer is; a live CD like Knoppix. Knoppix uses KDE. I dunno about in other countries, but if you walk into an average electronics/computer store in the US, the most common distro you'll find on the shelf is SuSe or maybe Red Hat. Now, I don't know much about Red Hat these days but I know SuSe uses KDE by default. Although most of the newbie friendly distros include Gnome, they tend to default to KDE. Just my 2 cents...

It's just a conspiracy
don't worry about it

basically because Gnome sucks
and KDE is going to take over the world

as I said
don't worry about it

all gnome users will be de-gnomified
and you will be re-educated
at special KDE concentration camps

and those who resist
will be tied into chairs
in front of windows computers
watching animated paper clips
dance around the screen
singing "I love KDE"
to the tune "Magical mystery tour" by the Beatles

resistance is futile
convert to KDE today

floppy

Hmmm...now that I think about it, my desktop does kinda resemble the Yelllow Submarine console...

All those photo's proclaiming George Bush is a secret Satanist
well thats just a red herring
He is a secret KDE user

Did they really land on the moon
No!
another KDE cover up

was it a plane or a missile that hit the pentagon
No neither
another KDE red herring
it was a gnome user - who refused re-education
on a hang-glider
diving from 30,000 feet
with a couple of molatov cocktails strapped to his head

why was JFK
blown away
refused to use KDE

resistance is futile
convert to KDE today

floppy

Uh what's KDE? Gnome aren't those cute little critters that live in the garden?

Use a real desktop like Icewm, Fluxbox, Xfce.


Seriously the number of distros that use KDE by default is insane. Partly because it is not that much different from windows. Gnome takes alittle getting used to with the taskbar and menus up top.

KDE v Gnome history - LinuxQuestions.org Wiki

Results from the 2004 Desktop Linux Market survey,

I use mostly Gtk applications but I use Fluxbox mainly. But I don't know what you mean by "it takes a little getting use to with the taskbar and menu's up top"? You know you can fully cutomize Gnome and move those menus, make it only a bottom menu or the like.

When I do login to Gnome, this is what it currently looks like.. http://trickykid.org/~drew/screenshot.jpg
Doesn't even look like Gnome does it? I hate desktop icons as well, just clutters things up.

Personally I can't stand KDE. I don't really like or use any of it's "K" applications either. Oh well though, use what you want and don't fool newbies thinking they have to keep that menu up at top, cuase they don't.

I'd go along with that: For newbies' sakes, distros use the most Windows-like desktop possible. That means KDE. Advanced users are expected to know how to switch to a different WM if they want.

I don't use either (FVWM rules!) but I've been impressed by how easy KDE makes it for Linux newbies who're used to Windows: My GF has just installed Ubuntu, and greatly prefers KDE, mainly because she can figure out how to use it

Mind you, that ugly grey default look of Gnome really, really doesn't help!

With a screenshot like that, why are you even bothering to use Gnome? Most any WindowManager would give you the same appearance for far less disk/memory/CPU space. . .

I think that is whats wrong in todays world, well with computers that is. If it isn't all bubbly and colorful, it must suck and I hate that mentality. I go for what works for me first, a million other things next and then looks last.

Well first of all, I said I mainly use Fluxbox. Secondly, this is on a very fast machine so it doesn't matter and I see no difference when I do. I boot into Gnome for many reasons, do I really need to detail my computer life out to you..

I know many people find it nice to bash KDE, but I find that it is productive, does what I want and is customizable to suit my needs. More than anything, I forget about KDE once I use KDE and that's the hallmark of a good GUI. Forget what you use, just do what you want to get done. And KDE is good at that if you customize it the right way.

The fact is KDE is not bloated if you choose not to install the xdm/gdm/kdm whatever and install only the KDE components you want. I noticed that it is much more responsive without a desktop manager than if you log in to a graphical login with xdm/gdm or kdm.

I usually log in to the console and then do "startx" when I want a GUI.

I tried all the Window managers, Gnome and so on, but I always keep coming back to KDE.

KDE just works the way I want it...

I suppose a lot of users can substitute KDE with Gnome/IceWm/XCFE/FVWM/TWM/Windowmaker/Fluxbox/<insert your window manager here> and repeat exactly what I said... each user finds his own level of comfort. I found mine in KDE.

What can I say, I LOVE the eye candy and KDE has plenty of it. If I had a slower/older machine, I'd use something like Fluxbox or IceWm but I update hardware on a regular basis. So bring on the transparencies, the dancing icons, the flashy, glossy goodies, and all the other things that are part of KDE.

Nice screenshot trickykid

As far as I'm concerned, I use Gnome just so that I have the Gnome panels, menu, and applets. I, too, don't have desktop icons.
Sure, I could use icewm, fluxbox... but none have the seemless configuration that KDE and Gnome have (drag-n-drop from the menu to the panel, right-click Add...).

Yves.

Thanks, I try to use wallpapers of places I'd rather be, even though half the time I never see it, too many open windows...

did your marbles roll off the hichair table?? j/k

last I checked Gnome and KDE are 'real' desktops.


To those of you that actually answered with useful information... Thanks.! This topic has actually bugged me for a while.. I dont know why. But I am a gnome guy and never understood why KDE always stood out more to a newb