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Old 11-05-2009, 07:06 PM   #1
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Unhappy Ft. Hood Killings


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/tex...ngs/index.html

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A soldier opened fire on a military processing center at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday, killing 11 people and wounding 31, officials at the Army base said.

The gunman also was killed, Col. Benton Danner said.

Two other soldiers who were detained have been released, but another person of interest is in custody, said Christopher Haug, chief of public affairs at Fort Hood.

The gunman, slain by emergency personnel, was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Licensed in Virginia, Hasan was a psychiatrist who previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center but more recently was practicing at Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood, according to professional records.

Hasan was scheduled to be deployed to Iraq "and appeared to be upset about that," Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said.

"I think that there is a lot of investigation going on now into his background and what he was doing that was not known before," Hutchison said.

Ten of the other dead also were soldiers, while the remaining one was a civilian police officer who was working as a contractor on the base, Cone said.

Two of the injured were in "very serious" condition, Fort Hood spokesman Christopher Hogue said.

More than one shooter may have been involved, Cone said.

"All the casualties took place at the initial incident, that took place at 13:30 [1:30 p.m. CT], at the soldier readiness facility," Cone said.

The primary shooter had two weapons, both handguns, he said.

Hutchison said she was told that the soldiers at the readiness facility "were filling out paper processing to go to Iraq or Afghanistan," according to CNN affiliate KXAN in Austin, Texas.

A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday about 2.5 miles from the attack said he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects.

Shortly after the shooting, military police told him to clear the course, and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts, he said. He ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached, he said.

A congressional aide said he was on the post to attend a graduation service when he saw a soldier with blood on his uniform near the building where the service was being held, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

Greg Schannep, an aide to U.S. Rep. John Carter, said the soldier ran past him and said a man was shooting. He said the soldier appeared to be injured in a shoulder, the American-Statesman reported.

President Obama called the shootings "tragic" and "a horrific outburst of violence." He expressed his condolences for the shooting victims.

"These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk, and at times give, their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis," Obama said. "It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil."

Officials at Fort Hood, which is the Army's largest U.S. post, were asking people there to stay away from windows, CNN affiliate KXXV said. The incident took place at the sports dome, now known as the soldier readiness area, the station reported.

The Army has asked the FBI to look into the background of the suspects, Cone said.

On the Fort Hood Web site, the word "closed" is posted with the statement, "Effective immediately, Fort Hood is closed. Organizations/units are instructed to execute a 100 percent accountability of all personnel."

Scott & White Memorial Hospital in Temple, Texas, posted an online appeal for blood as it began receving victims. "Due to the recent events on Fort Hood, we are in URGENT need of ALL blood types," it said.

Fort Hood, with about 40,000 troops, is home to the Army's 1st Cavalry Division and elements of the 4th Infantry Division, as well as the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment and the 13th Corps Support Command. It is located near Killeen, Texas.

At least 25,000 people are at Fort Hood on any given day, an Army spokesman at the Pentagon said.

Fort Hood is home to the Warrior Combat Stress Reset Program, which is designed to help soldiers overcome combat stress issues.

In June, Fort Hood's commander, Lt. Gen. Rick Lynch, told CNN that he was trying to ease the kind of stresses soldiers face. He has pushed for soldiers working a day schedule to return home for dinner by 6 p.m., and required his personal authorization for anyone working weekends. At the time, two soldiers stationed there had committed suicide in 2009 -- a rate well below those of other posts.
I'm a contractor for the Army and DoD that works out of Ft. Hood usually half of the time. This is a sad day. I'm still stuck here as the whole base is in lock down. =(

The article claims 11 plus the gunman were killed, making it 12 but another has died in the hospital, making total of 13.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 06:24 AM   #2
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It is sad and I will never understand how a person can go into a crowd and kill so many innocent people that are not going to help his cause. I do not no what made the man snap but I am almost sure shooting all those people did not help his cause.


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Old 11-06-2009, 08:04 AM   #3
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I'm a contractor for the Army and DoD that works out of Ft. Hood usually half of the time. This is a sad day. I'm still stuck here as the whole base is in lock down. =(
I know that others aren't as lucky but I am still glad to know that you are safe. I did not realize there were LQ members that have worked/been at that area at one time or another!

According to news sources today, he (gunman) survived ("Maj Hasan was shot four times during the attack and is currently on a ventilator in hospital, under armed guard. " (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8346078.stm) which for me is some consolation because this means that this asshat doesn't get the pleasure of already dying, and essentially not having to answer for his actions. I hope hanging is still done in the military justice system, because this piece of shit doesn't deserve the martial dignity of a firing squad, but a slow painful death at the gallows!
 
Old 11-06-2009, 08:50 AM   #4
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I know that others aren't as lucky but I am still glad to know that you are safe. I did not realize there were LQ members that have worked/been at that area at one time or another!
There's a few of us on LQ that are/were military members or contractors.

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According to news sources today, he (gunman) survived ("Maj Hasan was shot four times during the attack and is currently on a ventilator in hospital, under armed guard. " (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8346078.stm) which for me is some consolation because this means that this asshat doesn't get the pleasure of already dying, and essentially not having to answer for his actions. I hope hanging is still done in the military justice system, because this piece of shit doesn't deserve the martial dignity of a firing squad, but a slow painful death at the gallows!
If' he's charged with treason, which he likely will be, he may face the gallows. The death penalty can be issued for acts of treason.

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Old 11-06-2009, 08:51 AM   #5
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Yes I know treason can warrant a death penalty, just didn't know if hanging was still done.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 09:31 AM   #6
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And ... what if he was set up ?

Aw to hell with it, he should die a slow painful death, the *$*&#(*%& ($#*&#($*%& ! May he burn eternally in hell ! !!!! *$($*# !!! Kill HIM !!! KILL ! Torture ! Pain ! Kill them all ! NOW !!!

There you go, now my minute of hate is up. Your turn.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 09:33 AM   #7
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Yea, the guy in the hospital is wearing a Hassan suit, and the real Hassan is hidden somewhere bound and gagged.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 09:49 AM   #8
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Yea, the guy in the hospital is wearing a Hassan suit, and the real Hassan is hidden somewhere bound and gagged.
sorry, but I don't get it ... ???
 
Old 11-06-2009, 09:51 AM   #9
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Give Blood in honor of the fallen. Even if you are not anywhere Ft.Hood, TX, this is something that anyone can actually do.

[QUOTE=Chromezero;3747073]
There's a few of us on LQ that are/were military members or contractors.
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I served "211 Missions Under Kansas" as an ICBM Launch Officer during 1973-1976.

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If' he's charged with treason, which he likely will be, he may face the gallows. The death penalty can be issued for acts of treason.
Considering what we know about the shooter, one must wonder how much political correctness contributed to continuing this guy's relationship with the Army.

"... never send to ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."
~~~ 0;-Dan
 
Old 11-06-2009, 09:53 AM   #10
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@H_TeXMeX_H It was a reply to the infowars link. The title said " Everything About Nidal Malik Hasan Screams “Patsy” " So I automatically assumed infowars was somehow 'defending' this twerp. Sorry for the confusion. I guess I just mis-interpreted inforwars (as usual)
 
Old 11-06-2009, 10:00 AM   #11
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http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...t-hood--report
 
Old 11-06-2009, 11:00 AM   #12
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Lets also not forgot our 5 British Comrades killed by a rogue Afghan police officer before that too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8341659.stm
 
Old 11-06-2009, 12:28 PM   #13
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Lets also not forgot our 5 British Comrades killed by a rogue Afghan police officer before that too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8341659.stm
Wow, a rogue Afghan policeman gunned down 5 (five) British soldiers, injured 8 MORE, then ran off.

Damn, man, we gotta pull out of Afghanistan NOW ! Cuz they gonna mow down anything we got. We can call this guy Rambo. I can just imagine it now in my head.
 
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Tex: Would it bother you to have respect for these people and their beloved? I know you hate authorities, but 13 people got killed there. If you don't have anything better to say, i would prefer you not saying it.

Thats just my

I think it's a tragedy. I can't understand how someone are able to shoot so many innocent people.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 02:39 PM   #15
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@H_TeXMeX_H It was a reply to the infowars link.
@H_TexMeX_H, Do you have an actual point of view on political topics? If so, I assume it is one so extreme that you can express nonsense opposed to your viewpoint with confidence that anyone can recognize it as parody rather than as your viewpoint, while you can express nonsense on the side you believe with confidence that you are revealing the truth.

I haven't exactly studied your political posts, but when I've read them I generally can't tell which side you are parodying.

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I automatically assumed infowars was somehow 'defending' this twerp. Sorry for the confusion. I guess I just mis-interpreted inforwars (as usual)
@Jeebizz,

I haven't read anything from infowars before, so maybe I'm mis understanding parody there too. I still see only what you seem to have seen initially: a viewpoint that is so far to the left of reality that insanity, deceit (big lie) and parody are the only conceivable explanations. It certainly sounded sincere enough to make insanity the leading theory.

Why did you change to thinking you mis-interpreted it?

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