Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Windows is not that bad really.

Troll alert. Windows 10 is horrible. By and far the single worst OS I have used in my 30 years of computing. People use it because they don't know they have a choice and they can't afford a Mac.

i have had two things i can't do on windows that i can do on linux - separate speakers/headphones volume controls (e.g. can't mute speakers and have headphones unmuted at the same time), and changing the trackpoint's drift value

For me, it's not about what I can and can't do, it's about how well it does things. My chief complaint in windows 10 is the poor UI designs and poor network performance. There are so many bad UI elements to list it is overwhelming. When an app needs network access and there is any sort of lag present, the app goes white and "not responding". The is more prevalent in a corporate networked environment but is a productivity killer. In my work email, it takes 10-15 seconds to display an email in Outlook because of network lag. OneNote exhibits the same behavior.

Updates are complete broken: multiple updates pushed in a corporate LAN cannot all be applied at the same time for some reason. Multiple reboots (up to 4) happen every patch Tuesday. Never had this issue with any other OS I have used.

I have chosen to never use windows on a PC again because of these things. It doesn't matter that gaming on Windows is easier - the experience is spoiled by so many problems that I have utterly given up. I do everything on Linux and my MacBook. If I can't do it on either one of those, I don't do it. I have never found a deal breaker between those 2.

Monopolies are good for limits!

No matter: "unimaginable tracks of time..." https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2069270/

Originally Posted by Sammy885 Windows is not that bad really.

Oh sure! Can you prove it? Show us some source code. No wait... you'd be in a world of hurt if you did

Linux's 25+ million lines of code might be far from prefect, but we can (as of now) compile a custom kernel to our specs, whenever we want, deploy it where we want, and as many as we want.

I feel it's probably fair to say that no OS is perfect. But I have long wondered if Microsoft is too focused on wanting to set trends. For years and years, they gave preference to using file name extensions to determine file types, instead of using Internet Standards. At one point a company I worked for was trying to E-Mail updated licenses for the development tools we were using. The first attempt failed completely, since the license file was a .TXT file, and instead of honoring the type for the file embedded in the E-Mail, the .TXT file name extension was the focus. So instead of running an installer or some such to process the license when each developer received the E-Mail, the license was opened in a text editor!

AFAIK even the original versions of Unix did multi-tasking when handling pipes, but for years Windows seemed to require that the first process finish completely processing the data, before it would send data to the second process in the pipe line.

I feel that until at least windows 7, the UI had poor multi-tasking.

Since it used to run on top of MS-DOS which had all sorts of limitations, and things it just plain didn't do, it seems as though windows has been trying to catch up to other OS's for years and years.

Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd Troll alert. Windows 10 is horrible. By and far the single worst OS I have used in my 30 years of computing. People use it because they don't know they have a choice and they can't afford a Mac.

Because MS says it will help you in your daily tasks, never do they say how useful it is, or the lack of security it has, etc.
Typical ad tactic, right.

A Mac? You mean linux?

Why would a Mac mean Linux? I have a MacBook Pro for traveling and a Void Linux desktop for every day use.

Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd Why would a Mac mean Linux? I have a MacBook Pro for traveling and a Void Linux desktop for every day use.

Sorry, BSD.

People still use Linux?

Originally Posted by Mill J Linux's 25+ million lines of code might be far from prefect, but we can (as of now) compile a custom kernel to our specs, whenever we want, deploy it where we want, and as many as we want.

You can also do that with actual free operating systems which are not as bloated as that Linux thing.

Originally Posted by YesItsMe You can also do that with actual free operating systems which are not as bloated as that Linux thing.

... in monolithic or microkernel mode?

Originally Posted by Linux_Kidd Sorry, BSD.

No, I actually stopped using FreeBSD as my desktop. I love Steam games too much so started using Void linux. Everything works perfectly except for Fallout 3 in wine - crashes immediately. I'll figure it out eventually, not a deal breaker. Wanted a non-systemd distro and it is perfect for me.

Originally Posted by YesItsMe You can also do that with actual free operating systems which are not as bloated as that Linux thing.

Yup, trust me, I know. I've tinkered with some really neat and lightning fast non-NT-Darwin-Linux OS's already.