Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread
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70 gig IDE IBM M41 Hard Drive died so I grabbed a ancient 8 gig IDE I cannibalized out of a older IBM Aptiva.
Booted it up and was greeted with a Windows ME screen.
Do I want safe mode or normal boot. Regardless of which, it would not drive my graphics chip so crt white screened.
Booted up live cd and deleted and made fat32 /data out of it. My 40gig secondary drive sees it and Semplice Linuxmounts it in
PCManFM Ok and Macpup 529 on the other partition. It does what ever I tell it to. So no worries there either. Told the Puppy live cd
to load up grub4dos on /dev/sdb and find my Macpup 529 frugal and Semplice grub in / of Semplice.
Went from a quad booter test box to a dual boot test box and media center. This is just a Bike Shop beater Box. Adjusting bios was a no brainer from hd0 to hd1 as first booter.
Editing grub4dos to chainload Semplice Grub2 was just a norootverify (hd0,1) away also.
Took less than a hour. Windows fubared drives might have took longer (though not being Windows savvy, I can't really say).
Reasons for Linux (All if and only if properly administrated):
- Good Look (IMO)
- Bash (Hey, gets things done quicker than any GUI)
- Freedom of choice
- Source Code available
- Able to make coffee (if installed on a coffee machine)
- Able to drive a car (if installed on a car)
Reasons for Windows:
- Well... Aahm. Phew. Hard to think of more... Games.
- Phew. Are there no serious reasons? Hmm. Eeer.... Games.
- OK, there is M$ Office and Incest Explorer. But who the hell uses them. Besides, both run perfectly on Wine.
- Hmm. Now, seriously, I'm out of reasons. Maybe... somebody could... NSA, FBI, DEA, CIA, anyone, could you please? Guess you got more reasons than us usual people know.
The story is applied to mostly windows users, but awhile back, linux had a similar malware issue called hand of thief. Whether it's windows, macs, linux or other, people need to be smart about clicking on pop-ups, links in emails and visiting sites like porn, pirated materials and whatever. If people wish to continue to do this at least use a linux liveCD.
People should be smart just about everything. Malware of any kind doesn't come via E-mail, porn and privacy only - this time is long gone. Even a legitimate site could distribute it by displaying ads from ad networks that could have been compromised. This way, the BKA ramsonware, targeted at Germans, was spreaded, and it was (attention now!!!) making more than two Million Euros in the first two months in the wild!
This should show that a lot of people do not know how to deal with this kind of malware, and they blindly believe what is written on the screen just because there's a badge on it (One might want to say this was the reason for the fascism rise in the 1930s, and I wouldn't even disagree) - the ransomware demanded 50 Euros per computer, so more than four million people paid up.
Anyway, like with a real ransom, you can't be sure to not find the hostage with his/her throat slit up, somewhere on the trash - and the infected computer remains infected and might just be part of a botnet or something. Sad enough, there are probably four million computers standing around, being infected and a botnet that we all have to deal with now.
I personally cleaned up several computers using a Linux based recovery distro - for free, and I dedicated a lot of time to analyzing this software and informing people about the results. These computers even included one of my Windows boxes - and I do not download pirated software, porn or anything like that, and I don't even read e-mails on it. Besides, I never open attachments, or click links, that I don't expect.
Anyway, it helps a lot to set all plugins with known security issues, plus all propietary plugins (like Adobe Flash) on "click to play", and disable all Extensions that aren't known/neccessary. That can and should be done on Windows, Linux, MacOS and everywhere else, and while Firefox offers it via an "about:config" hack only, Opera allows it by default.
That's the point about propietary software: You can't verify it's safe unless you break the law and try to hack or disassemble it, and let's be honest, who does that?
It's so easy to get compromised by a hacked site. I never had any spam until I tried to post a comment on a newspaper's site. The comment didn't appear, but I now get a daily supply of advertisements for penny stocks and sex aids. No phishing Nigerians so far, touch wood.
Last edited by DavidMcCann; 10-28-2013 at 01:11 PM.
Well, that's the good thing of having your own server at home (which is affordable in the age of Raspberry Pi). I create an adress for every board/whatever I join. Then, I can exactly find out where spam orignates from and close the address if neccessary.
BTW, I wonder if there's a "Windows vs. Linux" thread in a parallel universe where Windows is better than Linux. OK, 404 Universe not found, but let a crazy guy have his imagination :-).
reasons for linux (all if and only if properly administrated):
- good look (imo)
- bash (hey, gets things done quicker than any gui)
- freedom of choice
- source code available
- able to make coffee (if installed on a coffee machine)
- able to drive a car (if installed on a car)
reasons for windows:
- well... Aahm. Phew. Hard to think of more... Games.
- phew. Are there no serious reasons? Hmm. Eeer.... Games.
- ok, there is m$ office and incest explorer. But who the hell uses them. Besides, both run perfectly on wine.
- hmm. Now, seriously, i'm out of reasons. Maybe... Somebody could... Nsa, fbi, dea, cia, anyone, could you please? Guess you got more reasons than us usual people know.
Thats in part what made it easy for me to switch, I'm not a big gamer. Since I've switched and now have kids I go look for open source cross platform games. Supertux and Tux racing, Lincity, Simutrans, Rigs of Rods, etc.
I learned to not use MSIE from when I first bought a new laptop with XP, there was no adaware, firefox, etc back then. So when you made a typo in the address bar and got infected a reinstall was often times quicker that trying to clean the crap out. I switched back then. I got burned by hotmail, MSMoney, MS Access, etc so I quit using MSOffice then as well.
Not to mention advertising M-games on kids vids; HULU's add experience asks is this add relevant to you yes\no is bull(!) thanks to microcoughed; feed on $heep, pun intended! New discussion title (I'm just going to keep posting them all over there boards) Revolution; (in > General Discussion!!)
Edit\add: Crackle too, I'm not racist just culturally-lacking but despise how the new war-games seem to have mostly minorities in their commercials claiming how good the stupidity is!!!