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Old 01-24-2004, 06:11 PM   #1
shorty_boy
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Angry Freaking Fedora. Kills X while loading graphical login screen!


Damn you red hat and your cursed e-mails. Thjey sent me that "redhat linux 7.x - 9 will be discontinued" and it scared me. So i dled Fedora and upgraded. Now X keeps shuting down before the graphical login can load.

It tells me that "something is going bad" and it stopps loading X for 2 minutes and then starts again. No if i load gdm maually i can get into kde fine...but the froblem is that normally my linux box boots in japanese, but when i have to lod kdm maually, it does not load the correct fonts and there fore i get these little bastard as text "?? or the little squares"

I really need hellp really bad. I thoughk it was my video card (ati rage fury 128 pro all in wonder <---- that's a mouth full) but it seems to have the drivers correctly. Also i should now be able to open kdm because it uses X to run! I am starting to not like fedora already and this litle stunt that REDHAT pulled is pissing me off.

Also i bout 7.3 a long time ago and by far it is my favorite version of redhat. so i installed it on another drive to back up my files (music/videos, tv shows) but i upgraded because of the apps that are installed took me a long time to get them to work(over 4 months to get 9 perfect...and better than XP). I can't let that go to waste.

Ok...i'll stop moaning an complaining but here is my question for you guys...(this may sound redundant but)... Why is X crashing will trying to load X for the graphical login screen!? I'm using fedora and it was an upgrade install from redhat 9. If i load kdm...X starts and load the login and kde will work fine except that it does not load the correct fonts for he japanese enviroment and therefore all of my text looks like ?? or small squares. Can anyone help me or do i have to start from scratch!?

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Old 01-25-2004, 02:51 PM   #2
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an update

when i try to start kade with 'startkde' i get this output:

xset: unable to open display ""
xsetroot: unable to open display ''
xrdb: Can't open display ''
startkde:cStarting up...
ksplash: cannot connect to X server
kdeinit: Aborting $DISPLAY is not set.
Warning: connect() failed: No such file or directory
ksmserver: cannot connect to x server
startkde: Shutting down...
Warning: connect() failed: No such file or directory
Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.

when i type 'startx' it loads kde but like said, my font looks like either ? or in little squares. i cannot read this crap and i need to atleast get my files off of this clunker before i do a fresh install cause my apps cannot besaves if there is no way out of this...
Anthony
 
Old 01-26-2004, 01:42 PM   #3
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I don't pretend to know how to solve issues with Japanese fonts, but here goes on a couple of points. Maybe this will generate input from those more experienced.

I think the funny characters in X are because you didn't load the language fonts during the upgrade to Fedora from RH9. If you have the ability to Google on this - find out how to do that.

The X crash you are getting at boot time - does it put you into text mode? If so you can save your existing files by simply logging in at the text prompt, cd'ing to your directory and cp'ing or tar'ing the files to removable media (CD or whatever). At least then you are safe to experiment.

I would recommend that you save you files and try to reload Fedora - paying special attention to the international settings. However - before that - wait a day or two to see if anyone else here has a better answer!

bl
 
Old 01-26-2004, 06:15 PM   #4
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Cool thanks...i will try that.

Yeah it brings me to the text prompt. i am going to use my linux 7.3 drive to back up my files... but how do i mount a drive that is not in my fstab? it would be hdb* but i don't want to screw things up worse until i can get my files!
Anthony J Sinette....and thanks for the reply
 
Old 01-27-2004, 06:41 AM   #5
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Once again - I may not be too much help here, but when I had a similar problem, I downloaded the Knoppix Live CD and booted from it. Just to be clear Knoppix is a full distro that fits on and boots from a CD without installing on your harddrive. It found and mounted my drives and provided me with a KDE interface and the tools to do some emergency work.

Obviously you can edit fstab to access your second drive if you want, if you are logged in as root. There should be several text based editors in your install to help. I haven't done this myself, so you might try to wait until someone else reads this and gives some more detailed answers.

However, in the interim you might want to try creating a bootable Knoppix Live CD and give it a shot. You might be suprised at how powerful it is.

Good luck,
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Old 02-17-2004, 09:35 PM   #6
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I have Locked files

ohk. it has been a while but i installed linux on another hd and now i can't seem to acquire my old files. As either root or my normal user( my normal user is tenoki and it has the rights to the file), i cannot edit the files. it says that "the file or directory does not exist" when i try to cp or to another location. when in KDE i copy and paste and it tells me that i "do not have proper writes to access the file" or "the file or directory does not exist". I used chown and chgrp and that does not do any good. It would help to know how can i get these files into a workable state.

It did let me change a few files that were locked by cping and giving a new target name. However the directories that i cannot access, i cannot do this.

also the file names are screwed thanks to fedora's lack of support for Japanese text. here is an example 'HELLO! PROJECT SPORTS FESTIVAL Tokyo�003ǯ12�9�'
that little symbol is what i think is the problem. it is suppose to be Japanese, but instead it is what ever it wants to be and is usually a box now that i'm in a new installation. so, does any one know what to do or have suggestions other than "you lost your files dude" or "don't use Japanese"?

thanks kind people AJS.
 
  


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