problem: I purchased debian Lenny the day it was available... unfortunately, there were some major problems with buggy apps... with that, the DVDs came with soybean ink
printed labels which washed completely away when I cleaned the discs.

So... I am now looking for a NEWER set of Lenny DVDs, and, nobody is selling Lenny
anymore.

Question: where can I look for a person or service who can download the DVD images
quickly (one CD (of 30) would take -me- 40 minutes / one DVD at least five hours).
Lenny was a five or six disc set (the DVDs).

Anybody have a suggestion for somewhere I could buy a set like this ?

thanks

Lenny, Debian 5, was dead and buried just about 3 years ago when Squeeze, Debian 6 and near its EOL now, was a year old.

Why on earth do you want an antique version of Debian. Is there some collecter value to it?

Why would you buy a Debian installation disk. They are all available free of charge. You can get them here. Do you not have a network connection? A netinstall version of Debian is around 200MB (1/3 of a CD). You then download only the things you want directly.
jdk

One replier asks: '...why on earth do you want an antique version of Debian. Is there some collecter value to it?
another adds: '...why would you buy a Debian installation disk. They are all available free of charge...'

Thanks to both who replied... I know Lenny is several debians ago, and, Im aware of the boot disk method.
The situation is, I want a /complete replacement set/... have a partition with Lenny installed, and want
to continue with Lenny as Im familiar with it, and want to replace the buggy original.
The internet connection I have isn't very useful for downloading discs or apps, so, doing it from online
isnt really an option for me.

my question remains - where could I purchase a replacement set... or... who or what service
could burn a replacement set from online DVD images ?

anybody know a burner service or seller of old debian ?

thanks again

I understand the slow connection problem very well. Up until 3 years ago I bought all my install media as it would have taken, if the connection held up, at least 3 days per CD sized image.

Lenny is still very old and I seriously doubt anyone selling images has any lying around. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get Squeeze still but going to Wheezy would make much more sense.

It will be supported for a long time. I can tell you that Squeeze is, in my opinion, much nicer than Lenny. Wheezy just builds on Squeeze a bit more. If you run Gnome you will prefer Squeeze to Wheezy probably because it is the same old panel desktop and Wheezy is Gnome Shell.

Both Squeeze and Wheezy use Xfce 4.8 which I switched to late in Squeeze. It is what the Gnome panel system always wanted to grow up to be. Again that is my opinion.

This is from the Debian site;
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

I believe that many of the disks for sale will actually come from this outfit;
https://www.osdisc.com/products/linu...te=aboutdebian

They do have a full DVD set of Squeeze I see in either 32 or 64 bit and also, if you need it, the disks with the source code for Squeeze too.

I see no sign of Lenny and would be quite shocked if you found such a set of disks. You could contact some of the vendors and ask.

Actually I clicked on a vender and they claim to have disks for Lenny and Etch if you want some real antique collecter value;
http://www.linuxcollections.com/prod...ian/debian.htm

The real questions are what is in Lenny that Wheezy wont do for you? or is the desire for Lenny because of hardware?

Many people, I'm sure somepne in LQ land would have images, could burn you the DVD's and charge you postage to send them to you as well as the cost of the DVDs themselves. I just don't see the reasoning behind "needing" them when they are no longer supported.

Despite you being familiar with Lenny, you should seriously consider to use a newer version. Lenny has seen no security updates for almost 2 years, which means that your system has all the security holes of the last two years. In other words: Your system is wide open to any common attack and possibly already compromised.
If you nonetheless decide to still go for Lenny, do yourself a favor, abstain from anything that might be a potential risk, like online banking, purchasing with credit cards, accessing important sites with personal data, ... .

..... or connecting to the internet at all!

I took this to mean that the OP did have an internet connection albeit a very slow one. That's why I suggested the netinstall disk.
@stu7 To retain the "look & feel" of your current installation you can copy the settings (contained in the file beginning with a "." in your home directory) and place them in your new installation.
jdk

Aww you guys... suddenly I feel sick :-)

so many helpful suggestions... I did in fact find Lenny DVDs at the address suggested
by widget ...thank you... bookmarked it !

Yep... cant agree more... a modern debian is usually better, save for those useful apps
which might have been discontinued. I have followed debian since Sarge and earlier,
and each distro has always been a major improvement... we all seem to agree on this.

Now... well... its kind of funny(!)... the issue of corrupt apps on my early version
suddenly went away... Ive seen it before. The "cobwebs" problem... dont use software
or a computer for a long time, and the first time thru, it coughs on dust literal or no.
So it was when I tried one more time tonight... the suspect program ran perfectly for
me. Wash away labels or no, I seem to have working DVDs.
Much of this searching for a Lenny answer was essentially a waste of time. I apologize
to all who tried to help... you did really. I believe, rather than invest in the older
Lenny, I will get a Wheezy set ! I always /wanted/ a Wheezy set... Santa wants me to
have a Wheezy set(!).

Thanks again

stu7

Glad we could help.

Slow connections are tough to deal with. Mine is not real fast, according to most folks, I think it has blazing speed (about 320kB/sec) after years of 4.8kB/sec.

I don't actually think I have anything to really complain about newer versions of Debian. Newer versions of Gnome, on the other hand, don't impress me much.

Some software does disapper. Usually this is due to no one caring for it enough to maintain it. I am not sure how any distro can be blamed for that. The community of users of that software should look in the mirror to find the most probable cause of its demise.

If you have the entire Wheezy set you will have your choice of DE. Don't hesitate to try some you have not looked at before, or did and thought little of them. I had no use for Xfce 4.6. Wheezy uses 4.8 and it is a very nice DE. Was supposed to have 4.10 but that version was not up to the stability rules Debian has for packages at freeze. 4.10 is even better particularly with tabbed browsing in Thunar.

I have never liked KDE but it doesn't even look or act much like it did in the Lenny era. As an old Gnome user I find it disturbing that while I still don't like KDE I prefer it to Gnome.

Lxde is nice but I prefer Openbox straight up and think that Debian packages it very nicely. Easy on resources. Infinitely configurable.

If you are currently using Gnome 2 you can add the 3rd party repo for Mate to your sources.list and use it. This is what my wife runs, under Wheezy, as her DE. Really a very nice DE that I would use if it were not for Xfce. Well supported, has a Wheezy specific repo. Will be in the Debian repo for Jessie.

Gimp is vastly improved although you will have a lot to relearn.

LibreOffice replaces OOo and is much more mature.

I have several very old boxes. One is a laptop with no wifi but it has both DSL and Dialup Modems installed (old Latitude) which runs Wheezy fine with Xfce. One is another early XP era HP Pavilion Desktop and it runs fine too. Both are a bit slow if you try any heavy multi tasking with them by one application, like Gimp, by it self is fine.

Thanks again for your comments widget !

while you will hear /good things/ and /not so good things/ about various software or
packages, the only way to be sure is try them. You seem to have a lot of linux
experience, and your opinion makes a difference to me. Frankly, I typically use
whatever pops up first... KDE was a favorite of mine at one point, but there was a
developer split I think, and usability went south(!)... good to see it has returned
maybe.

I agree, the latest LibreOffice is a very nice tool. Its another example of software
development that split, and produced something better. They have a way to go still.

Right - the Gnome thing has kindof disappeared... older developers I think. It was a
popular sideline debian that just lost steam. So many developers in the past ten years
with new distros and ideas.
As you commented on discontinued applications - a lot of this is older developers who just
dont see a reason to improve their already dated programs. Again, there is so much newer
stuff with added features. Im an old timer, and a lot of my favorites rely on /stopped with/
earlier debian distros.

lots of the significant changes or differences in recent debians relate to hardware...
I used to drool over the latest blackbox version, but, with the mega-RAM computers they
have now, a slightly faster app tends to make just a small difference, and nobody cares.
Same with our problem of download speeds_ if you can pay 20 bucks more a month for cable,
theres no such thing as slow download anymore. Ho hum(!).

stu7

It is also getting hard to find dial up service at all in a lot of areas. Just too slow for what people want to do with the internet.

I didn't really mind it being so slow. Was on a remote ranch on crappy roads, keeps the riff raff out.

No cell service up there for a long time to come. Unless cows start using cell phones.

Did take all day to do and update/upgrade cycle if there was any great number of upgraded packages. I just started it before heading out. Check if and when I got back for lunch. Finish after dinner.

Definitely did a lot of CD/DVD business for Linux images. Outfit I used is no longer in business. Fast service. Never more than 5 days. Usually 3 or 4. Part of that was because we only got mail delivery 3 times a week (M,W and F).

Boss died on me. If she had not have done that I would be up there still. I liked it. Don't think much of living in town.