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Old 07-15-2009, 09:11 AM   #16
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Hi,

I am new to Linux as well. Installed Mandriva on my laptop and loved everything about it. Installing Debian now to see which one suits me more. I have been using windows for years but really had not time to try Linux.

vtel57, could you please please post those command?

Thank you.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 01:43 PM   #17
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jamesAnder: if you are talking about the commands and instructions vtel57 posted in the beginning, here they are:
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1) Download FF from Mozilla
2) Extract (GUI or CLI, whatever's easiest for you) the package to /usr/local/bin
3) Create a symlink to /usr/local/bin/firefox/firefox in /usr/bin
4) Create a menu entry and/or panel icon for your newly installed FF
 
Old 07-15-2009, 03:50 PM   #18
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Brian McKenna wrote:5 Reasons to Support IceWeasel

1. Debian doesn’t have to meet the unreasonable

Mozilla can’t be blamed for wanting to keep their trademarks so they also can’t be blamed for wanting to review all Debian’s custom patches. Problem is that it’s just too much of a trouble for Debian and it’s against their social contract. Debian applies lots of patches so that Firefox is better suited to the Debian environment, this is only a good thing.
2. It’s an improved Firefox

Firefox is great, there’s no doubt about it. What could make Firefox better? Getting its only problems fixed! So far there have been two privacy improvements. I can’t see any reason why anyone would be against having an improved Firefox.
3. It’s completely free

IceWeasel removes the unfree artwork and plugins. This gives everyone the freedom to modify, distribute and use any part of IceWeasel - an improvement on Firefox.
4. It’s important for GNU

GNU can’t just throw away Mozilla’s mostly free software and not take advantage of it by stripping it of the non-free stuff and distributing a fully free browser. It takes a short amount of time to make and maintain IceWeasel and it makes a good stand for free software. Every step is still a step to completing GNU and the FSF’s job(s). They need to keep it up.
5. IceWeasel looks and sounds good

Give me IceWeasel over Firefox anyday. Oh, you use Firefox? That sucks! IceWeasel is so much better. See, the name alone will make people want to switch from whatever the hell they’re using.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090707 Firefox/3.5 (Debian-3.5-1)
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:05 PM   #19
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Quote:
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Hi,

I am new to Linux as well. Installed Mandriva on my laptop and loved everything about it. Installing Debian now to see which one suits me more. I have been using windows for years but really had not time to try Linux.

vtel57, could you please please post those command?

Thank you.
Sure. First go to Mozilla's site and download the Firefox application. It is in a compressed file format and will need to be extracted. Here are your command line commands to install the application:

Open a terminal as root --> Navigate to the directory where you downloaded Firefox -->

Code:
user@yoursystem:~$ su
root password: *********

root@yoursystem:# cd /<your download directory>
Now extract the file -->

Code:
root@yoursystem:# tar -xvf firefox-<your version#>
This will extract (decompress) the file leaving you with the original and a new directory named "firefox".

In the terminal again -->

Code:
root@yoursystem:# cp -R firefox /usr/local/bin (or wherever you'd like to install it)
This copies the newly extracted "firefox" directory to the /usr/local/bin directory on your system.

Navigate in terminal to /usr/bin (Important: NOT /usr/local/bin) and create a symlink for Firefox in the /usr/bin directory -->

Code:
root@yoursystem:# ln -s /usr/local/bin/firefox firefox
Create a menu item (in Debian R-click on the Gnome Menu button and choose "Edit Menu" to add items to the menu. Also, R-click on Gnome Panel and choose "Add Application" to add an icon to your panel to start FF.

That's about it.

Enjoy!
 
Old 07-16-2009, 02:24 AM   #20
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vtel57,

Thank you very much. Much appreciate your help.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 03:58 AM   #21
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Give a holler, James, if you need any futher assistance with this.

Regards,

~Eric
 
Old 07-16-2009, 12:59 PM   #22
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Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090707 Firefox/3.5 (Debian-3.5-1)
1.

iceweasel messes up a couple sites. this is not good for OSS as it gives OSS a bad name.

2.

iceweasel's artwork sucks. this is a fact because i want to.

3.

i wish debian user had a fair chance to use firefox if they wanted to, i.e. mozilla repos...

4.

all of this can turn into dogma in a heartbeat. let us avoid it

5.

lightening up. my original reply was a certain local mailing list's fault. sorry about that.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 01:06 PM   #23
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Back to the original question of FF from a repo for Debian, I'm thinking you could try the Mepis repos...
 
Old 07-16-2009, 01:37 PM   #24
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1
3.

i wish debian user had a fair chance to use firefox if they wanted to, i.e. mozilla repos...

4.

all of this can turn into dogma in a heartbeat. let us avoid it

5.

lightening up. my original reply was a certain local mailing list's fault. sorry about that.
Debian does not stop anyone from using Firefox (qua Firefox not Iceweasel). You just have to install it yourself as you do with many other apps that are not packages for one reason or the other. I don't really understand what the problem is. It is not written in stone that every piece of software on your machine must be installed by the package manager. If you want bloody Firefox then for god's sake just download it from their site. Nobody's stopping you.

The whole point of linux is freedom; freedom to do things your way and not be locked into something by a vendor or a distro.
jdk

Last edited by jdkaye; 07-16-2009 at 01:38 PM.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 03:43 PM   #25
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The whole point of linux is freedom; freedom to do things your way and not be locked into something by a vendor or a distro.
jdk
ABSOLUTELY! This is the profound truth of GNU/Linux and Open Source. It's why I'm here. Bravo!
 
Old 07-16-2009, 06:18 PM   #26
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iceweasel messes up a couple sites. this is not good for OSS as it gives OSS a bad name.
the only sites that I know of that iceweasel doesnt work out of the box with are the M$ sites like hotmail, changing the user.agent to Firefox like mine shows works just fine. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090707 Firefox/3.5 (Debian-3.5-1)

Sure you can install Firefox, but why bother when iceweasel works and is much simpler to install?

This is linux it is all about freedom use whatever makes you happy.

I ran Firefox and iceweasel for over a yr when debian first made the change in that time I never saw a site that worked in firefox that didn't work as well using iceweasel.
 
Old 07-18-2009, 01:02 PM   #27
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@jdkaye. i already have it, that's not the point.. the point is i wish i could use apt to install and update it.

@craigdevil. iceweasel messes up deviantart as well. to a point where the site won't provide support for it.

@rich_c. will now check mepis repos... thanks

@all. don't you love this kind of discussion?
 
Old 07-18-2009, 11:18 PM   #28
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@jdkaye. i already have it, that's not the point.. the point is i wish i could use apt to install and update it.
Why?
jdk
 
Old 07-18-2009, 11:34 PM   #29
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@craigdevil. iceweasel messes up deviantart as well. to a point where the site won't provide support for it.
Really? That is where most of my wallpapers come from using Iceweasel I haven't had any problems.

To each his one.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 10:33 PM   #30
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Got tired of waiting for iceweasel 3.5.1 to make its way into sid so I installed Firefox.

Steps I used:
downloaded Firefox
extracted to my /home
ln -s /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins /home/craig/Downloads/firefox/plugins
opened iceeasel with iceweasel -profilemanager and created a profile for firefox
copied my iceweasel profile to the new firefox profile
downloaded the .desktop file from http://deviceguru.com/files/Firefox.desktop edited it a bit

5 minutes work and now I have firefox 3.5.1


Generated: Tue Jul 21 2009 23:23:00 GMT-0400 (EST)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Firefox/3.5.1
Build ID: 20090715083816

Enabled Extensions: [16]
- Adblock Plus 1.1
- Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper 1.0.6
- BetterPrivacy 1.29
- ChatZilla 0.9.85
- CoLT 2.4.4
- Copy URL + 1.3.3
- FlashGot 1.1.9.8
- Forecastfox 0.9.10.1
- Konquefox 1.7.0
- Mouse Gestures Redox 2.1.4
- MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.3.4
- Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2
- NoScript 1.9.6.8
- PDF Download 2.2.0.2
- Stylish 1.0.5
- Xmarks 3.1.0

Disabled Extensions: [1]
- Extended Copy Menu 1.6

Total Extensions: 17

Installed Themes: [2]
- Default
- Mostly Crystal 3.5

Installed Plugins: (12)
- Adobe Reader 9.1
- Default Plugin
- DivX Browser Plug-In
- DjVuLibre-3.5.22
- Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
- Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_14
- mplayerplug-in is now gecko-mediaplayer 0.9.6
- OpenOffice.org Plug-in
- QuickTime Plug-in 7.4.5
- RealPlayer 9
- Shockwave Flash
- Windows Media Player Plug-in
 
  


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