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course jstephens your working and also you wanted to be an open source developer too infact i also have dream of becoming open source developer from along time, but since no encouragement and no proper guidence in this country i cant achive it, as you know about india mean how people here are and how selfish they are also too.
Well the reason i asked about being benefited is for their living purpose, i mean every body needs money and for that many people do many different types of jobs to get it, so what i thought was if these developers work hard and spend alot of time then how are they going to earn, hence i asked that are they working in some companies or not.
Thanks jstephens for replying.

Originally Posted by coolguy_2005 course jstephens your working and also you wanted to be an open source developer too infact i also have dream of becoming open source developer from along time, but since no encouragement and no proper guidence in this country i cant achive it, as you know about india mean how people here are and how selfish they are also too. Well the reason i asked about being benefited is for their living purpose, i mean every body needs money and for that many people do many different types of jobs to get it, so what i thought was if these developers work hard and spend alot of time then how are they going to earn, hence i asked that are they working in some companies or not. Thanks jstephens for replying.

I see. you last post makes bette sense now. But I am still going to venture out and say most of this is done on free time and they have the good ol 8 -5 job.[not me unfortunately]

Thanks for replying stephens, so accordign to you those great people have 8-5 jobs in hand huh wow thats amazing, i think they computer genius. If i am able to contact these guys i think i can turn out to be like them 1 day.
Hoping for best

You would be supprised to find out that some of these people may not be computer techs. I have ran into a couple that are accountants by day.

wow thats really wonderfull, how r they managed to get soo expertise in the computer world and turn out to be genius. i wish i too wanna be like them

That is why I wanted to start working in the zenwalk community. Zenwalk has really left a good impression on me and Axxium was the first person to every extend the offer to me so I am jumping at it before it passes me by. But as I said I am not good at any languages yet not even at bash scripting but with time I will be. So I plan on being paitent and learning from the others little by little.

Oh well i have done by graduation and looking for job, any ways i know c,c++,java,pearl(basics),php(basics),shell(basics) and how can i help these genius from the depth of my knowledge, thought i am not an expert at all nor i do have experience in industry.

Originally Posted by coolguy_2005 Hey thanks for your opinion MR Admin. Well i am sure of installing it now. Since every body is tlkin alot of about zenwalk, that impresses me to give it a shot now . Very well Axxium you tlked about the people involving in this zenwalk community either a developer or user. I just want to know who are these developers and are they working for bigger companies like novel or sun or any other and one more thing i always wanted to ask is these developers spend lot of time in developing these stuffsm yes they are great people. cheers to those . But i got my zenwalk copy as free i mean i downloaded it off net and these developers though spending lot of time and atlast they sell their work for free, but what i am thinking is how these developers are getting benefited if they keep selling their product for free to every one, yes i know that some people will donate some money but i dont think thats enough for them and for their valuable contributions as well as their beautiful minds. Again a curious questions about an opensource developer Thanks. cheers to all of you people.

We work for ourselves. All of the development is done in our free time after or during our day jobs. (Don't tell my boss, hehe) We recieve donations to cover the costs of server hosting and DNS registration. We also sell CDs through a company http://www.on-disk.com which helps in the same way as the donations. When the donated funds exceed our hosting costs we use it to purchase hardware for our developers as testing equipment to assure that everything works as expected before we release to the public.

We make no money for ourselves if you are curious about that. I would love to be able to quit my day job one day and work for Zenwalk full time. Perhaps in the future that may happen. I surely hope so, but for now all the money is put into hosting and test equipment.

We work for free.



-Michael

wow Axxium (Micheal), really you people are great.
HATS OFF TO YOU ALL.

Well i dont have any doubt about selfishness in you guys about making money for yourself, infact i think if you make money for yourself then there is not wrong in it. Bcoz you people are doing great job and i am really happy to see people like you , but at the same time i am really unhappy for not seeing people like you around me . Well i just wanted to know that are you people work in software companies or some where else, if yes, May i know where if you dont mind (just curious) and are you people are from computer science background i mean you people have completed graduation or college drop out, the reason i am asking this alil bit personal question is coz many people in the wester side who have turn out to be genius are mostly college or skool drop outs, even thought i have completed graduation, i am ashamed of myself for not being like you or any genius over there who are drop outs.
Please dont mind for what i have said about.
Sorry.
kumar

Originally Posted by coolguy_2005 wow Axxium (Micheal), really you people are great. HATS OFF TO YOU ALL. Well i dont have any doubt about selfishness in you guys about making money for yourself, infact i think if you make money for yourself then there is not wrong in it. Bcoz you people are doing great job and i am really happy to see people like you , but at the same time i am really unhappy for not seeing people like you around me . Well i just wanted to know that are you people work in software companies or some where else, if yes, May i know where if you dont mind (just curious) and are you people are from computer science background i mean you people have completed graduation or college drop out, the reason i am asking this alil bit personal question is coz many people in the wester side who have turn out to be genius are mostly college or skool drop outs, even thought i have completed graduation, i am ashamed of myself for not being like you or any genius over there who are drop outs. Please dont mind for what i have said about. Sorry. kumar

JP (Zenwalk's creator) actually works full time for a Linux Security company in France. That may assure you of Zenwalk's great security. As for me, I excelled in Math and Sciences in school but I left highschool just one credit short of graduation and I work in a totally none computer or science related field. School was boring, physics was cool because we got to blow things up in class. I won't go so far as to call myself a genius but I'm not stupid (most of the time).

To suceed you have to have access to a computer and determination. That's all.



-Michael

Yes micheal, you really aint stupid, but infact a genius. I admire your and other genius works here. Keep it up my friends.
Btw as i already said, i am not a computer genius as you or any other person here. I just have completed my graduation but now i think how dummy i am . I know some of the languages like c,c++,java,shell,pearl,php. well i am learning more and more about these languages to excell in them. Any way i love to be like you people. Yes now i am searching for job, still i heavent . but as soon as i get one. ill definitely donate to zenwalk and other developers too for their valuable contibutions. This is my promise.
I want to help you people. yes i am not expert. infront of you guys i am noting. But still i want to serve alil bit of what i can do with my dummy head.
Long live genius
shailesh

I tried to install version 5. Previously there was the possibility to make Z start from a floppy but unfortunately not yet.

My other linux's Suse and Ubuntu use Grub but Z prefes Lilo. I stepped to the expert configuration but did not find the way to install Lilo on the partition Z was installed on /dev/hdb1 (/dev/sdc1).

I wish I could edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst to add Z but from my previous experiences I know it is difficult. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.

Zenwalk resides on /dev/sdc1 (hdb1). Looking Z's partition from Suse 10.3

ukinsuse:~ # ls  /mnt/zenwalk
bin   dev  home  media  proc  sbin  tmp  var
boot  etc  lib   mnt    root  sys   usr  windowssiin
ukinsuse:/home/ukki # ls  /mnt/zenwalk/boot
README.initrd         config            splash.bmp
System.map            config-2.6.23.12  vmlinuz
System.map-2.6.23.12  initrd.splash     vmlinuz-2.6.23.12
ukinsuse:/home/ukki #

Suse 10.3's code on its /boot/grub/menu.lst

title openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.17-0.1
    root (hd2,4)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.17-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_Maxtor_6Y120M0_Y46YPKZE-part5 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sdc5 splash=silent showopts
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.17-0.1-default

and Ubuntu 8.04's

title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (/dev/sdc6)
    root (hd1,5)
    configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

And now thank's to gaban I have the answer

title Zenwalk 5.
    root (hd1,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.22.17-0.1-default root=/dev/sdc1 ro
    initrd /boot/initrd.splash

Take a look at this wiki page.

I gotta tell you folks,

I've been playing around with Zenwalk 5.0 for about a week now and I am absolutely impressed with your hard work. Until now I've been running Slackware 12 and just love the darn thing and will probably remain a slacker for life. But as a student sometimes I just need to get a program downloaded, installed, and working for me quickly without spending hours chasing down dependencies. Netpkg is brilliant, and still allows me some manual control over dependencies if needed.

I appreciate that Zenwalk is lightweight, stable, good-looking, and if I want I can still learn Slackware's package management because it's right there under the hood. It really does seem to be the best of both worlds and I will be recommending Zenwalk now as my distro of choice for Linux newbies.

Kudos to all!

Dig

Originally Posted by gapan Take a look at this wiki page.

Thank you, I am already old and sometimes tired so I am thankfull of all advice. Even in the case I will easily find it by scanning the Net.

"recommending Zenwalk ... for Linux newbies" In that case, include the possibility to start Z from a floppy. It is the easiest way to proceed if you install to a multiboot PC. Yes, I know most upp-to-date computers do not have the floppy station, but Z is one of the best choises for older computers.