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Old 11-29-2004, 05:39 PM   #1
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root and /home question


i'm trying to install yoper for the first time. newbie to linux from windows. anyway i'm trying to install, get to the partition gui program and i set 6gb for root, 400mb for swap, around 2gb for /home as per a tutorial on partitioning i found in this forum. the rest (around 11gb) is just stuff in ntfs format. but after i set all the partitions everything, quit the gui program, it asks me which is my root partition. i select the root one. then it asks me my home partition and i select my /home partition and it quits telling me that it needs a minimum of 6gb. what do i do to fix it?? do i need to delete my ntfs partition and make my /home big or what?

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:55 PM   #2
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Well..

Go into the Partitioning GUI and delete ALL partitions.

Make your Root partition NTFS (/dev/hda1). /dev/hda2 should be your Root - give this the most space. For your Home disk, make it over 10 gigs, depending on what you need. Swap is generally 1 gigabyte for BEST performance. I'm sure you can fill in the fine lines on that, no? :-)

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:59 PM   #3
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Make your Root partition NTFS (/dev/hda1). /dev/hda2 should be your Root - give this the most space.

what's the difference between ROOT partition (/dev/hda1) and the Root with the most space??
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:03 PM   #4
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d'oh

Ack, didnt make that clear.

Root for Windows is /dev/hda1 under NTFS (Or FAT32).

/dev/hda2 is for Yoper root, and make this the largest for you need the most space for /usr, /boot, and all other directories besides home.

Also, if you don't want a Home partition, thats fine as well. I find they are more problems then they are worth.

Here are 2 examples:

/dev/hda1 - NTFS - Windows - 20 gigabytes
/dev/hda2 - reiser4 - Yoper (Root) - 60 gigabytes
/dev/hda3 - swap - Linux Swap - 1 gigabyte
/dev/hda4 - ext3 / reiser4 - Home partition - 20 gigabytes.

Thats assuming you have a harddrive that is 101 Gigabytes, too ;-), so your mileage may vary.

The second option (No Home partition)

/dev/hda1 - NTFS - Windows - 40 Gigabytes
/dev/hda2 - resier4 - Yoper(Root - 60 gigabytes
/dev/hda3 - swap - Linux Swap - 1 gigabyte

That 101 gig hard drive is coming up again :-), I reccomend the second scheme personally (Never used the /home partition ;-) )

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:08 PM   #5
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what's the /home directory used for again? and i have a 20 gig hd...sigh...oh well...got any suggestions for that?
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:11 PM   #6
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Surely..

The /home directory / partition is where your user account and personal files are stored. This is only useful for large and / or RAID hard drivers.

You have a 20 gigabyte hard drive?

/dev/hda1 - NTFS - Windows - 9 Gigabytes
/dev/hda2 - reiser4 - Yoper (Root) - 10 Gigabytes
/dev/hda3 - Swap - Linux Swap - 1 Gigabyte

I have a 160 gig hard drive so I normally have a higher amount of space. If you want though, you can ditch Windows all together and use Wine / Cedega for Windows programs and gaming on Linux ;-)

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:14 PM   #7
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ok i'm ditching windows. i can download all my music again i guess so i'm gonna make /dev/hda1 (root) 19 gig and swap 1 gig. so if i don't specificy the /user directory, what happens to it? and how do i not specifiy it? it asks me and terminates if i don't specificy it.
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:32 PM   #8
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Incorrect.

A /home directory (Not /user, that doesnt exist ;-) ), is not required. During setup you say Cancel to the Home directory - and then setup the root. I think you may have these in reverse order so its terminating.

Also, don't download your music again :-), just burn it to CD if you can :-)

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:37 PM   #9
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cool cool...so what does happen to the /home directory? where does it all go? like u said the passwords r stored in it, what happens to the passwords if there is no /home directory?
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:40 PM   #10
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No no no, you misunderstand :-)

If there is no partition for /home, then it is stored on the Root Yoper directory. Its still there - just no dedicated drive for it. I find this better space-usage wise too, your not limited :-)

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:43 PM   #11
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ok cool.
i got another problem. it installed and everything but now it says hard disk boot sector invalid. i did everything u said and i put lilo on with raiser4 or 5. i picked it because it said something of the future. what's wrong?
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:45 PM   #12
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Hmm...

Did you make the Root (Yoper) partition Active for Boot in the graphical partitioning tool?

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:47 PM   #13
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u have to do that too?? oh wow...i'm so used to be spoilt by windows.
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:50 PM   #14
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Its not hard - its the only way it can boot though. Windows doesn't spoil you either, it leads you down a path of inoperability that makes you want to scream =P

Yoper takes only 10 minutes to install - no biggie. =P
 
Old 11-29-2004, 06:52 PM   #15
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lol thanks with that installation. anyway does yoper install good on a mac? i god this old mac with os x and it runs so slowly it's not funny. like hows its support for mac stuff?
 
  


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