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View Poll Results: Which of the following uses of sudo do you prefer to gain root?
sudo -s 5 12.20%
sudo -i 10 24.39%
sudo su 24 58.54%
sudo bash 5 12.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-18-2010, 12:31 AM   #46
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Note the boldfaced enlarged corrections to your spelling.
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Also, the fact that the *buntu distributions are the only distributions in the world that do things the way they do things should say something, considering everyone else knows what they're doing
You for got to correct the above spelling of *ubuntu.
Kenny_Strawn, you missed this spelling error!

(Note, Usually people resort to grammar and spelling errors when they have lost the argument. )

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Old 10-18-2010, 05:05 AM   #47
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When did Ubuntu add service? It's not here in Xubuntu 6.06 (LTS). (I wonder if it's also in MEPIS 8.5.)
 
Old 10-20-2010, 07:36 AM   #48
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sudo su
The practice of using $ su command encourages weak passwords.
If you have a root password 20-30 characters with special characters it
becomes problematic working on systems where installing/maintaining software.
This is the sort of password protection I like.

Occasionally admins do password cracks to check systems integrity. If you are using "sudo command" how would your password rate? I know that if I were a hacker I would
prefer you to use the above.

I did not see comments on password security/strength in relation to root. What do people who break unix systems think?
 
Old 10-21-2010, 10:43 AM   #49
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Can someone name a reason to have a separate root account other than laziness? Ubuntu's lack of a root account and use of sudo for these privileges is one of the distro's greatest strengths, IMO.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 10:44 AM   #50
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Note the boldfaced enlarged corrections to your spelling.
For someone who posts Bible verses in his sig, you certainly are rude.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 10:14 PM   #51
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You for got to correct the above spelling of *ubuntu.
But Ubuntu is spelled with a capital U, so *buntu makes more sense to me.

Then it's Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, instead of ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu.
 
Old 11-27-2010, 11:18 PM   #52
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Yeah, but how come you guys attacked me simply for pointing out a spelling error?

Besides, it's simply proprietary software -- and more specifically M$ software -- that I'm un-Christian towards, not any people of any kind. Unless of course you're talking about the people who code proprietary software and defend it with pat€nt la₩¥er$. I *NEVER* mean to attack any people here. I only attack the ideas -- and people ad-hominem me for it.
 
Old 11-28-2010, 08:19 AM   #53
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Well, some do find it provocative to have another's beliefs pressed upon them. Perhaps Ambrose Bierce best captured the sentiment in his definition of a Christian: "An individual who believes the Bible is a divinely inspired text perfectly suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor."
 
Old 11-28-2010, 08:53 AM   #54
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Can someone name a reason to have a separate root account other than laziness? Ubuntu's lack of a root account and use of sudo for these privileges is one of the distro's greatest strengths, IMO.
Yes, I can. su is meant to become another user, in most cases the administrative user root. Therefore you have to give a root passwort, not your own. sudo was meant to give some users the possibility to do some tasks with administrative privileges, but without giving them the rights to control the whole system. Therefore sudo wants your password, not root's password. So sudo was meant as fine-grained system for granting some users some administrative rights, and not all rights. In my eyes sudo is a useful tool, I for example use it to grant my normal user the rights to poweroff or reboot the machine. For all other tasks I use su or su -c. Just my personal opinion, sudo was never meant to be used the way Ubuntu and derivatives do.

So yes, I can answer you question, there is another reason (although I don't see the point of laziness here, is it lazier to give the root passwort to the system instead of your own?): security.
 
Old 11-28-2010, 12:12 PM   #55
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When did Ubuntu add service? It's not here in Xubuntu 6.06 (LTS). (I wonder if it's also in MEPIS 8.5.)
Why are you even using a 4.5-year-old Ubuntu release? That's just about how EOL Ubuntu 6.06 is.
 
Old 11-28-2010, 12:24 PM   #56
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Why are you even using a 4.5-year-old Ubuntu release? That's just about how EOL Ubuntu 6.06 is.
The server edition will become EOL in June, 2011.
 
Old 11-28-2010, 06:51 PM   #57
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Yes, but Xubuntu and Kubuntu are based on the desktop, not server, editions. The desktop edition of 6.06 has long been EOL.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 08:28 AM   #58
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Back on topic, I feel that I should have added "Alt+F2+gksudo gnome-terminal" to the poll. That being: If you press Alt+F2 and type "gksudo gnome-terminal" you end up opening a whole terminal window -- as root.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 06:33 AM   #59
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:17 AM   #60
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Kenny - don't bump threads without adding to the discussion. If a thread is not receiving replies, there is usally a good reason for it and bumping the thread won't make it more interesting or relevant.
 
  


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