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Old 01-22-2021, 07:32 AM   #16
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I need to make a blog as well for people who love Windows but since Win 8 and 10 are crap and open source is the ultimate choice, Linux should be installed everywhere.
I can post all the info I collected in one location.
No need to to do web search after web search.
No need to search around an unfamiliar Control Panel.

I installed Debian. I just installed the standard version. Not the latest build stuff.
Wow, that thing is up to date. They updated Discover. The previous one was broken. I can't believe they released that.
LibreOffice was updated to the latest 7.0.4. I don't know why they never update on Kubuntu.
On Kubuntu they update Firefox to the latest but all other apps, they forget them. They barely update Chromium.
On Debian, they updated Kate.
I installed VirtualBox. It is the latest version on the the official website. 6.1.something.
While on Kubuntu 18.04, it was 5.1 and it was broken.
I did not test the VirtualBox on Debian bc the CPU does not support virtualization.
I didn't try Eclipse. I didn't try Qt Creator.

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Old 01-22-2021, 09:21 AM   #17
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Discover let's me know when there's updates, which is multiple times per day here in sid.
Otherwise I use apt or Synaptic
 
Old 01-22-2021, 09:21 AM   #18
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Discover (from my system tray) let's me know when there's updates, which is multiple times per day here in sid.
Then I use apt or Synaptic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)

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Old 01-23-2021, 08:24 AM   #19
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Discover (from my system tray) let's me know when there's updates, which is multiple times per day here in sid.
Then I use apt or Synaptic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)
Are you a Debian user, jamison20000e?
For how long?

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Old 01-24-2021, 02:25 AM   #20
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Lots of time in Debian, for the 20 plus years I've Linuced around now... devoting less and less time these days.

But, when I do need to compute it's GPL and free as in freedom as much as we have time for!

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Old 01-24-2021, 03:16 PM   #21
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I checked out Debian. It looks like you can't install the nVidia driver via the System Settings, via the GUI.
I'm looking for a user friendly OS.

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Old 01-24-2021, 07:12 PM   #22
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I downloaded debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso
and burned the image on a DVD-RW.
The image you downloaded is tiny and only contains the bare minimum
to get a bootable system. The The rest of the system is downloaded
at install time.

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I installed it on a test machine.
It looks like DOS.
It looks more like Linux than DOS.

Evo2.

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Old 01-25-2021, 12:20 AM   #23
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Talking "It looks more like Linux than DOS."

Installing a netinst, old-school if you will... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=netinst&t=h_&ia=web
I like disconnecting my hardware from the www, (only recommended if you're willing to learn, have searches on hand and\or have ethernet: easy if non-free.iso for s )
then you have an empty mine craftable plot to build your dream house on,,, by which I mean OS.

non-free e.g. NvidiaGraphicsDrivers: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

"User friendly OS," pay a system admin or there is no such thing!
There are only few true freedoms, software can be won!
Have fun!
 
Old 01-25-2021, 10:28 PM   #24
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Installing a netinst, old-school if you will... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=netinst&t=h_&ia=web
I like disconnecting my hardware from the www, (only recommended if you're willing to learn, have searches on hand and\or have ethernet: easy if non-free.iso for s )
then you have an empty mine craftable plot to build your dream house on,,, by which I mean OS.

non-free e.g. NvidiaGraphicsDrivers: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

"User friendly OS," pay a system admin or there is no such thing!
There are only few true freedoms, software can be won!
Have fun!
In my case, it isn't about disconnecting my PC from the network. It's that my internet speed is slow. I also might need to install the same OS on multiple PCs and also in VMs as well.

Debian looked good. It looks like they push a lot of updates.
The boys at Kubuntu are sluggish or something. Maybe Evo2 can answer that one for me. I bet he has a long long history with Linux. 20+ y perhaps?

But it looks like Debian is not for me.

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Old 01-25-2021, 11:02 PM   #25
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Opinions will always form best when yours!


Not that I'm trying to push Debian but if your and the most distros are built on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...n_Timeline.svg

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ds-4175542588/
'Debian full set' also on Blu-Ray.iso with kitchen sink.
I like Debian-sid over Debian-wheezy for having more updates pushed, more works when being worked on...
So, my point in time is hassle free with Debian-sid.

Have fun!
 
Old 01-26-2021, 08:19 AM   #26
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Opinions will always form best when yours!


Not that I'm trying to push Debian but if your and the most distros are built on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...n_Timeline.svg

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ds-4175542588/
'Debian full set' also on Blu-Ray.iso with kitchen sink.
I like Debian-sid over Debian-wheezy for having more updates pushed, more works when being worked on...
So, my point in time is hassle free with Debian-sid.

Have fun!
I don't mind if you push Debian as long as you are a Debian user.
My philosophy is that I prefer more. If it is possible to have a GUI for something, then that is the direction to go.
And it's not just me. I would be recommending Linux to people and I want them to have an easy experience.

I flew by with the first DVD only. I think it was 3.7 GB. Then, the updates were 1.2 GB.

Fromy your link:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...588/page2.html

"The sources.list file tells apt where to look for packages that are available. That could be local DVD disks or a remote repository on the internet (or both)."

That's a bit of a problem in Linux it seems.
I first encountered this in OpenSuse. The updates were always faling and the only feedback is "updates failed".
After searches on the web, yes, there is a place in YaST2 where you can uncheck the DVD.
Then the updates work.
But if I don't have the OpenSuse DVD in the drive, why does it spend 1 h downloading updates from the internet and then pops up a message "updates failed" and the list of software updates, the numbers didn't go down.
This is bad design.
I had the network cable connected during the install of OpenSuse.

For Debian, I think I had disconnected the network cable during installation, so it created a source.list file which only points to the DVD.
So later, I was not able to update Debian. Then I changed sources.list and updates were working.

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