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Old 05-15-2022, 05:11 PM   #1
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How to suggest adding a feature to Ubuntu


Not starting a ticket on a bug, but how would one go about suggesting a feature to Ubuntu so that developers might read it (?)
 
Old 05-15-2022, 05:57 PM   #2
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Not starting a ticket on a bug, but how would one go about suggesting a feature to Ubuntu so that developers might read it (?)
Amazingly, by putting your exact question into a search-engine, one of the first things you'd have found would be:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/2844...ature-requests

...from the Ubuntu forums. Where they tell you how to not only fill out/read bug reports, but also ask for new program features, and tell you that for some applications, you'll have to ask the application developers for whatever it is you want. You submit a bug report and tag it with [Wishlist]. Again, you do no basic research and show no effort.

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Old 05-16-2022, 02:01 AM   #3
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I'd also take a good look whether a similar/identical feature request already exists.

I'd also have a very good think before even suggesting anything; usually dev's are already drowning in issues and I don't want to make their lives harder.
 
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I'd also take a good look whether a similar/identical feature request already exists. I'd also have a very good think before even suggesting anything; usually dev's are already drowning in issues and I don't want to make their lives harder.
Based on the OP's posting history, I doubt seriously whether such research into the program features would actually take place.
 
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Old 05-17-2022, 09:27 PM   #5
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I'd also take a good look whether a similar/identical feature request already exists.

I'd also have a very good think before even suggesting anything; usually dev's are already drowning in issues and I don't want to make their lives harder.
Thanks for your reply; however, you haven't suggested a site where I can make suggestions.

I know there are web sites to report bugs to the developers; however again, I'm looking for a web site where I can make suggestions (that aren't necessarily bugs), a site where I can make suggestions for developers to look over....

Regards,

Michael
 
Old 05-17-2022, 10:01 PM   #6
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Thanks for your reply; however, you haven't suggested a site where I can make suggestions.
I'm assuming the author of post #2 is on the OP's ignore list? Or am I missing something? Seems to me the question has been answered quite well already.

Pretty much any project that uses github, gitlab, sourceforge, etc will tell you to file a ticket or issue with the proper tags. This way they can much better track where progress on said suggestion is going or not going by linking relevant commits, discussions, assigning to proper developer, etc.

 
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:07 PM   #7
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I'm assuming the author of post #2 is on the OP's ignore list? Or am I missing something? Seems to me the question has been answered quite well already.

Pretty much any project that uses github, gitlab, sourceforge, etc will tell you to file a ticket or issue with the proper tags. This way they can much better track where progress on said suggestion is going or not going by linking relevant commits, discussions, assigning to proper developer, etc.

Yes, 2 people are on my ignore list and that is one of them - I can only see that they made a hidden message.

Thank you for your reply.

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Old 05-18-2022, 08:17 AM   #8
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Thanks for your reply; however, you haven't suggested a site where I can make suggestions.

I know there are web sites to report bugs to the developers; however again, I'm looking for a web site where I can make suggestions (that aren't necessarily bugs), a site where I can make suggestions for developers to look over....
Then you can take the 'brave' step of actually reading things you may not like. You were handed a site (again, no effort on your part) where you can, and told what you need to do. But anyone who calls you out on your lack of effort winds up on your ignore list, because you have a little temper-tantrum. Can't have anyone say anything negative to you, can you?
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Yes, 2 people are on my ignore list and that is one of them - I can only see that they made a hidden message.
Don't lie...it's three. Myself, ondoho, and boughtonp (at least based on what you said previously).
 
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:26 PM   #9
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Then you can take the 'brave' step of actually reading things you may not like. You were handed a site (again, no effort on your part) where you can, and told what you need to do. But anyone who calls you out on your lack of effort winds up on your ignore list, because you have a little temper-tantrum. Can't have anyone say anything negative to you, can you?

Don't lie...it's three. Myself, ondoho, and boughtonp (at least based on what you said previously).
Your suggestion is fine. Your delivery of the suggestion needs improvement.

For example, change what you write into this:
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This is the link:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/2844...ature-requests

All I did was put the following keywords into a web search engine: ubuntu + suggestions + "how to"

You submit a bug report and tag it with [Wishlist].
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Then you can take the 'brave' step of actually reading things you may not like. You were handed a site (again, no effort on your part) where you can, and told what you need to do. But anyone who calls you out on your lack of effort winds up on your ignore list, because you have a little temper-tantrum. Can't have anyone say anything negative to you, can you?
The problem is that he was not interested in listening to you. Something happened in the past between you two. There was friction and the fault is entirely on you. He decided to eliminate the problem by putting you on an ignore list.

If you want to educate people, just make suggestions, or tell them what you would do. That would be sufficient.
 
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:51 PM   #10
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What is the feature? If it's a Gnome feature, why not contact the Gnome devs?
Would the feature benefit the Linux community as a whole (very likely)? Or is it something specific to Ubuntu (not so likely)?
 
Old 06-02-2022, 08:41 PM   #11
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What is the feature? If it's a Gnome feature, why not contact the Gnome devs?
Would the feature benefit the Linux community as a whole (very likely)? Or is it something specific to Ubuntu (not so likely)?
Well, one thing that came across my mind, and it may be a Gnome suggestion. Is that when I click on "settings" in my dock, I can click on each individual "setting" such as Network, Bluetooth, Background, the list goes on. When I click on each individual setting with my mouse, then the information pertaining to it changes to reflect and coincide with it on the big window on the right side.

However, I have noticed that if I click Settings in the dock, I can also use my up and down arrow keys to change from one setting to the other. However, when using the up/down arrow keys to move from one to the other, the information on/in the right side does not change to pertain/reflect what is highlighted on the right hand side. It is not just my desktop that does this, as I have noticed that it occurs also on my laptop (in Ubuntu 20.04 lts). I don't know if I would go so far as call it a "bug," but it certainly could be a suggestion that it be looked at or "fixed" by developers...

It's that and a few other things I'd like to make suggestions about....

Regards,

Michael
 
Old 06-02-2022, 11:16 PM   #12
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Yes, 2 people are on my ignore list and that is one of them - I can only see that they made a hidden message.
So you are actively ignoring two very helpful people. Amazing. I don't have an ignore list, but I if I did, I now have an good idea who might be the first person on it.

Evo2.
 
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Old 06-03-2022, 02:12 AM   #13
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So you are actively ignoring two very helpful people. Amazing. I don't have an ignore list, but I if I did, I now have an good idea who might be the first person on it.

Evo2.
I have my reasons. I'd rather work with a broken system than put up with people's unprovoked verbal abuse.

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Old 06-03-2022, 05:29 AM   #14
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Something happened in the past between you two. There was friction and the fault is entirely on you.
That's a rash assumption on your part if you don't know the cause of the friction. I know I don't know what it was. TBOne could have left out the commentary but perhaps he is trying to encourage the OP to put some effort into questions before posting here. I've seen a number of posts by the OP (like this) which could have been answered with a simple web search. This question was asked and answered at the Ubuntu forums earlier this week.

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Old 06-03-2022, 07:58 AM   #15
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Your suggestion is fine. Your delivery of the suggestion needs improvement.

For example, change what you write into this:
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This is the link:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/2844...ature-requests

All I did was put the following keywords into a web search engine: ubuntu + suggestions + "how to"

You submit a bug report and tag it with [Wishlist].
----------------------------------

The problem is that he was not interested in listening to you. Something happened in the past between you two. There was friction and the fault is entirely on you. He decided to eliminate the problem by putting you on an ignore list. If you want to educate people, just make suggestions, or tell them what you would do. That would be sufficient.
Sorry, no. The first few times that's the way it was....after DOZENS of times over the course of years (and feel free to look at the OP's posting history), it's a bit much. If you want to post that way, then great...feel free to spoon-feed folks all you want. Fact is, the OP shows no effort, and it's not just me that's called them out on it, and when you do, you get onto the 'ignore' list because you're 'mean' and 'rude'.

I'm here to help folks, not babysit them. If you want to, that's up to you.
 
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