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Old 11-04-2013, 02:32 AM   #1
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LXer: KDE and Canonical Conflict Over Mir Finally Bursts into Open


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The conflict that has been brewing between the KDE developers and Canonical has finally exploded in a flurry of statements which show just how many problems the Mir display server has caused.

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Old 11-04-2013, 03:53 AM   #2
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Why is anyone surprised by this? Ubuntu has been moving in this direction since well before 10.04 was released. Having, personally, witnessed the bad way people were treated who commented on the direction Ubuntu, and by extension Canonical, were taking I have to wonder why developers of major projects are only just seeing the forest for the trees.

There is only 1 purpose to Ubuntu, and again by extension Canonical, and that is to monopolise FOSS and then dictate what everyone does. Thank goodness there are still real community projects like Debian, Slackware, and a range of smaller projects to keep the real FOSS movement going.
 
Old 11-04-2013, 04:48 AM   #3
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People may be suprised because they havent been following the general direction of canoncial over the last fews years. And/or wish to believe teh whole 'saint shuttleworth' idea.

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Mir is really important work. When lots of competitors attack a project on purely political grounds, you have to wonder what THEIR agenda is.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295

What a pity that its not just 'policital' its also pratical. Wayland and Mir seem to be simialr in some ways, and wayland was promised ages ago-

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551

Sometimes the ego of shuttleworth is something amazing to watch. Remember this?

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And I’m pretty confident Mir will be on a lot more devices than Wayland. Which would be good for KDE and Kubuntu and Plasma Active.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1235

But lets face it, shuttleworth is no longer interested in desktop computing. If it wasnt fairly obvious from 'bug #1 solved' there are hints peppered all over shuttleworths blog posts.

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From what I’ve seen on the smartphone, Mir is going to be a huge leap forward for gaming performance, battery life and next-generation display capabilities.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295
 
Old 11-04-2013, 06:14 AM   #4
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Thank goodness there are still real community projects like Debian, Slackware, and a range of smaller projects to keep the real FOSS movement going.
Nitpicking here, but Slackware isn't strictly speaking a "community project". It's a closed commercial operation which allows access to its product for free (while hoping you'll buy a 'release' boxset to support its ongoing development). The distro does have a very strong community surrounding it and the fact that it is often mistaken for a "community project" just goes to show how closely Pat and team work with their users, and what a difference a 'BDFL' that lives up to the title makes.
 
Old 11-04-2013, 06:26 AM   #5
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Sometimes the ego of shuttleworth is something amazing to watch. Remember this?

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And Iím pretty confident Mir will be on a lot more devices than Wayland. Which would be good for KDE and Kubuntu and Plasma Active.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1235
Which is quite funny, now that Mir was delayed and comes in Ubuntu 14.10 for the first time, while in the meantime the first Wayland phones will be released (Jolla) and Fedora will run at that time with Wayland as default (as testing option it will come in Fedora 20 already).

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There is only 1 purpose to Ubuntu, and again by extension Canonical, and that is to monopolise FOSS and then dictate what everyone does.
And I thought that is what systemd is for.
 
Old 11-04-2013, 01:41 PM   #6
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Nitpicking here, but Slackware isn't strictly speaking a "community project". It's a closed commercial operation which allows access to its product for free (while hoping you'll buy a 'release' boxset to support its ongoing development). The distro does have a very strong community surrounding it and the fact that it is often mistaken for a "community project" just goes to show how closely Pat and team work with their users, and what a difference a 'BDFL' that lives up to the title makes.
Nitpick noted . Even though I do use Slackware as a learning experience I don't know much about the project but all the evidence does show that Pat works extremely closely with the Slackware community.

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And I thought that is what systemd is for.
No systemd is to give Slackware users something else to argue about
 
  


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