Why is Nautilus so lame?

tongar · 06-02-2007, 01:28 PM

I used to use KDE's Konqueror in Novell's SLES, but lately I have been required to do the Gnome thing.

I find the Nautilus File browser to be deficient in some ways:

1. First of all, why isn't the version of Nautilus updated with online update from Novell? When I gripe to the Nautilus bunch, the tell me 2.12.2 is ancient and I need to upgrade. It is part of the default SLES 10 desktop. I refuse to grovel around trying to update it myself.

2. When you navigate to a file, in my case the path can be over a hundred characters long. The path is not displayed in a copy-to-clipboard way. Konqueror did this.

3. Where is the search feature? I want to search for partial filenames and strings contained in files. Konqueror did this.

4. Bookmarks in version Nautilus 2.12.2 (the best one Novell has) have a bug where they use the internal file pointer instead of the name of the bookmarked path. Although some may think this amusing or even correct, I wasted several hours debugging a server after I had renamed the previous server directory (where I had added bookmarks) and untared a fresh server to work on. I was changing and debugging files in the renamed version as the bookmarks pointed to that instead of my working server.

Is it possible to be using Gnome and somehow still use Konqueror?

thanks for any ideas,

Quakeboy02 · 06-02-2007, 01:31 PM

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I refuse to grovel around trying to update it myself.

If you refuse to fix it, then why complain that there's a problem?

pusrob · 06-02-2007, 01:44 PM

You can use KDE applications if you have kde core libraries installed on your system. The kdebase package contains konqueror.

RAdams · 06-02-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongar

I used to use KDE's Konqueror in Novell's SLES, but lately I have been required to do the Gnome thing.

I find the Nautilus File browser to be deficient in some ways:

1. First of all, why isn't the version of Nautilus updated with online update from Novell? When I gripe to the Nautilus bunch, the tell me 2.12.2 is ancient and I need to upgrade. It is part of the default SLES 10 desktop. I refuse to grovel around trying to update it myself.
Then why complain?

2. When you navigate to a file, in my case the path can be over a hundred characters long. The path is not displayed in a copy-to-clipboard way. Konqueror did this.
Click the little button that looks like a pencil writing on paper.

3. Where is the search feature? I want to search for partial filenames and strings contained in files. Konqueror did this.
The "search button" is right on top, but make sure "always open in browser windows" is checked under the behavior tab in nautilus-file-management-properties.

4. Bookmarks in version Nautilus 2.12.2 (the best one Novell has) have a bug where they use the internal file pointer instead of the name of the bookmarked path. Although some may think this amusing or even correct, I wasted several hours debugging a server after I had renamed the previous server directory (where I had added bookmarks) and untared a fresh server to work on. I was changing and debugging files in the renamed version as the bookmarks pointed to that instead of my working server.
fixed in the new version.

Is it possible to be using Gnome and somehow still use Konqueror?
If you have rights to install the kde libs and konqueror, then yes.

thanks for any ideas,

see above.

tongar · 06-02-2007, 02:54 PM

Thank you all for the replies,

It appears my version is old as I do not have the features that fix my issues.

There are two possibilities here:

1. Something is wrong with my online update setup. You are able to recieve the Nautilus update via online update. If this is the case, then I appologize for my assertion.

2. Novell does not upgrade the default desktop as one would expect via online update. You must search the web for Nautilus, pick a site, download the rpm (I hope it's an rpm), and install yourself. You must also do this for many other packages that you may not even be aware you are using. If this is the case, then my complaint is valid. I will then open a trouble report with Novell.

thanks for helping resolve this matter,

RAdams · 06-04-2007, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongar

Thank you all for the replies,

It appears my version is old as I do not have the features that fix my issues.

There are two possibilities here:

1. Something is wrong with my online update setup. You are able to recieve the Nautilus update via online update. If this is the case, then I appologize for my assertion.

2. Novell does not upgrade the default desktop as one would expect via online update. You must search the web for Nautilus, pick a site, download the rpm (I hope it's an rpm), and install yourself. You must also do this for many other packages that you may not even be aware you are using. If this is the case, then my complaint is valid. I will then open a trouble report with Novell.

thanks for helping resolve this matter,

Yes, I would definitely check with Novell on that. If they're not pushing GNOME updates via whatever-online-updater they're using now, then something is clearly wrong (maybe the repositories have to be manually updated?)

Good luck!

dth1 · 06-04-2007, 10:24 AM

I use kde so no idea on gnome but it is only security updates that happen automatically with suse - not improvement updates. You have to take action yourself to update the latter (i.e. add an updates repository to yast or manually download the rpm and install)