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Old 10-17-2005, 05:29 PM   #1
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Suse ISO confusion


I'm brand new, so excuse my lack of knowledge. I just downloaded via Bittorrent the 10.0 distribution. This came through in two folders, one called iso and one called delta.iso. There are 5 iso's in each folder and the delta files are much smaller than the plain iso files. Why do I have 2 sets of files (this is the 5 cd version) and which do I use to make my discs, thanks.

Also, I tried and failed to find on the Novell site the md5 sizes to check my isos before burning. Where do I find them? thanks
 
Old 10-17-2005, 05:56 PM   #2
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Code:
Applying Delta ISOs

Delta ISOs allow to download a small file instead of downloading the complete ISO if you have the previous ISO. To use this feature, you need the package deltarpm that is installed by default. The syntax for applydeltaiso is:
So basically you don't need them

md5sum are available on suse's mirrors, is these are'nt correct for your architecture


Code:
4c92330e28f5c6212f4437cb89e0077c  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD1.iso
4b59b8c45e9db4891cd9d9135ea7b678  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD2.iso
166b0620dce680baf447b375251f8228  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD3.iso
e8653561b18727115083d66385cf6b56  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD4.iso
2812287a2f4d00a0f938fec3e94d0033  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD5.iso
de55f6860aeb594029716a40117d090d  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM.iso.torrent
de55f6860aeb594029716a40117d090d  SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM.torrent
320976f73076eb96b3c9226c9ae0cb70  SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso
06609a7234bfa75046a296a0c1872b1c  SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.torrent
aea98f3abbc373af089a27472586d370  SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-x86_64-GM.iso
62c665a7b1b4fde3ce7e96d24c5f0d4f  SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-x86_64-GM.iso.torrent
0ac27890699bc5bc1195bc48225b58d9  SUSE-10.0-LiveDVD.iso
92146cb2f5f27a69cce501f8aaa77a66  SUSE-10.0-LiveDVD.iso.torrent
1490a06c5b8ab7572c8f8420ca0c5a1f  SUSE-10.0-DVD-SRC-RC4.iso
b2f6ae0cba405a827857ef5abe31e536  README.txt
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:37 AM   #3
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Thanks for clearing up my confusion. However, I've never checked an md5 checksum before and I've downloaded a windows program to do so, but the checksum values you listed I saved into a .txt file which doesn't work with the program. How do i get the values into a form the program will read? I tried saving the ascii file as suse.md5 but that doesn't work either. I told you I was new at this, and I've been looking for explanations on the net, but the Novell site doesn't explain this for newbies like me. Thanks -- PS the program I have is called MD5Summer
 
Old 10-19-2005, 02:51 PM   #4
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This may help

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...icle&artid=436

For clarification

This program determines the md5sum of the ISO you downloaded

You then manually compare this to the list I posted

If the 2 match all is well

Pete
 
Old 10-19-2005, 03:11 PM   #5
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I used a program md5Summer (not a command prompt program) to do the same thing and this is what I got, none of these compare. I'll try the other one next. D

446af780a75e25e0ef3d86519704d61d *SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD1.iso
f30f738a57f3bf3b185efa8b7013906a *SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD2.iso
49d451efb5844f4f99f7399a3d180094 *SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD3.iso
40e7517635abba36a3f506cbbcd823d1 *SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD4.iso
d5bc32922ddb75adf7c19d770dfb0337 *SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-GM-CD5.iso
 
Old 10-19-2005, 03:32 PM   #6
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Yours shouldn't match with any of those. All 5 of your discs are OSS version, which have different md5s than the eval, GM, and Live. The program you use doesn't matter, I use Nero's tool for instance, and it will calculate the md5s the same as every other program, because that is the whole point. So basically, you just need to compare it with the same. The whole point is not to waste on burns, which I understand, but I got those OSSes, and were fine, I can test their numbers when I got home, and I can't recall what I did compare them with originally. So probably you are alright. And if you do burnt hem, the SuSE install has its own md5 tester within the install process.
 
Old 10-19-2005, 04:31 PM   #7
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Wow! Talk about confusion, I thought I had downloaded via Bittorrent the eval distribution -- I believe it was so labeled. So I'm starting from scratch with new isos. These should match the numbers you've given me, many thanks.

Got to say, given how new all this is to me and how confused I got even just with the download (and I'm fairly used to such things in Windows) -- I feel nervous about attempting to switch over to Suse from Windows.

I'm planning on loading Suse into an old PC that I want to set up as an mp3 client -- and run Zinf only. Will there be driver issues with old hardware -- a TB Santa Cruz Sound card and old Dell mobo, etc. Where can I find hardware requirements for this release? My goal for this box is to re use whatever bits and pieces of hardware I can squeeze in, as the system will have few demands on it beyond running Zinf. thnaks for taking me in hand. rmb
 
Old 10-19-2005, 11:05 PM   #8
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Frankly, you should be okay with most hardware, but I have a Turlte Beach Santa Cruz in this tower, which sits configured...but apparently wrongly. I know most get it working, but somehow mine is not, it tests okay, but when I finalize and apply, it just doesn't work. I don't yet know what causes it, if it is me missing something, or if others are doing something I am unaware of to get theirs to work, or if I need to disable onboard in the bios or what.

But SuSE 10 is a good start for something trying to switch from windows, follow the Jem Report to get your mp3 capability working completely, it isn't worth trying to battle the find on your own:
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/178/42/

Good Luck
 
Old 10-20-2005, 06:56 AM   #9
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Could someone spell out the delta ISO business to me a bit more?
 
Old 10-20-2005, 07:10 AM   #10
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http://www.opensuse.org/Download_Ins...ing_Delta_ISOs

There is the use of them. Essentially it allows you to download smaller ISOs with package updates, rather than entire ISOs with only full RPMS, as not everything is changed every version of SuSE.
 
Old 10-20-2005, 07:13 AM   #11
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Ahh so it's for people who have the last beta already installed
 
Old 10-20-2005, 07:16 AM   #12
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Yes, essentially it is a set of updates which require the CDs or ISOs of a previous SuSE install.

Most people familiar with precalc or calc, know why they call those deltas.
 
Old 10-20-2005, 07:36 AM   #13
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I guess they wouldn't work with 9.3
 
Old 10-20-2005, 09:40 AM   #14
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Assuming my Dell Celeron will handle Suse 10.0 ok, what's the appropriate amount of ram to have onboard. Thanks
 
Old 10-20-2005, 11:23 AM   #15
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256 is the recommended minimum, depending on what you are doing you may want considerably more. I won't use a computer, or seel or recommend one with less than 512Mb now, and for gamers, and other people than need to use large programs, multitask, etc, I recommend 1 gig.
Depending on your usage 256 may be just fine. But with most laptops, as with low end desktops, when you have onboard video, it is using YOUR ram and processor, because there is no vram or gpu. So having 256 and then sharing some of it away to video leaves you with less than you really should have.
 
  


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