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View Poll Results: Do you buy or download?
Yes, I support Novell/SuSE, and like getting all the manuals 51 43.97%
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Old 11-17-2004, 05:40 AM   #76
cachinnare
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I've bin using the DL or free versions of MDk since 5.2. 10 community was very problematic for me.
Vers 9.0 I think was the best.
A friend just purchased SuSE 9.2 pro. THIS is good.
1 dvd, a great setup, and config, but the purchase comes in with the extras, they make all the difference for a complete system. 6GB on my system.
I'll be buying periodically.
 
Old 11-17-2004, 12:48 PM   #77
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Can anyone elighten me on SuSE and downloading of 9.2. I know in the past they usually do not have iso's available for download. But with the recent success of 9.1 Personal, why would they stop releasing iso's to the public for download?


If anyone has an article saying SuSE will or will not release 9.2 (an ISO)for download, please post a link.

Thanks!

MD

Last edited by mikedeatworld; 11-17-2004 at 01:54 PM.
 
Old 11-17-2004, 01:27 PM   #78
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Hi mikedeatworld,

You may already be aware that you can download 9.2 using FTP and then complete the full installation using FTP.

The main rationale for not releasing a full .iso version is to divide the sales effort into two streams:

You buy it, you get the easy to use (.iso) DVD's or CD-ROM's, Documentation, and Support.

You download it, you have to spend time and money on your bandwidth, you get the documentation included in the SuSE distro, but you have to search for and configure the documentation once the OS is installed, you have the support of the linux community.

If you are not aware of the ftp process then please refer to step 1 and step 2 in this post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=251222

hopes this helps,

Truly,
ServerStorm
 
Old 11-17-2004, 01:30 PM   #79
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Thanks Server Storm,

Yes, I have done many many many FTP installs and am aware that SuSE makes this available. I was don't get why they are reverting back to thier old ways of only pure FTP installs for "free". To me, it seems that iso's helped their market share.



Mike
 
Old 11-17-2004, 03:02 PM   #80
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bought 9.0 personal, but...

I bought 9.0 personal when my xp recovery discs went bad and hp didn't service my system anymore. I had never tried linux before, but i didn't have the money for xp at the time. I was suprised at how well everything worked except for my scanner and wifi. I have downloaded and tried redhat 9 , mandrake 10, fedora core 3, knoppix, gnoppix, suse 9.1 and 9.2 live, debian net install (sarge), damn small, and phlak. I keep trying other distros, and I find suse the easyest to install and run, and debian the ultimate geeks distro. I will buy agaiin when I find a distro that will install, detect and support my hardware out of the box. I'm no programmer, and i don't want to spend two weeks on an install to get everything to work. I see everybody bitch about windows, but you put the disk in and everything works. when linux reaches that level I will buy again to support whatever distro I prefer at that time. meanwhile I'll keep learning, testing and trying different versions until I find my favorite.
 
Old 11-17-2004, 03:15 PM   #81
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If I may say so... NEVER buy it until you've tried it!

I always buy other stuff from the site anyway...
I personally find the manuals useless..
I just buy other stuff from the websites. they still get money
 
Old 11-17-2004, 03:45 PM   #82
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Quote:
I bought 9.0 personal when my xp recovery discs went bad and hp didn't service my system anymore. I had never tried linux before, but i didn't have the money for xp at the time. I was suprised at how well everything worked except for my scanner and wifi. I have downloaded and tried redhat 9 , mandrake 10, fedora core 3, knoppix, gnoppix, suse 9.1 and 9.2 live, debian net install (sarge), damn small, and phlak. I keep trying other distros, and I find suse the easyest to install and run, and debian the ultimate geeks distro. I will buy agaiin when I find a distro that will install, detect and support my hardware out of the box. I'm no programmer, and i don't want to spend two weeks on an install to get everything to work. I see everybody bitch about windows, but you put the disk in and everything works. when linux reaches that level I will buy again to support whatever distro I prefer at that time. meanwhile I'll keep learning, testing and trying different versions until I find my favorite.
Ever tried running Mac Os X on your HP PC? How about WinXP on a Mac? Any reasons why they won't work??? Oh, gee, I know, the HARDWARE ISN'T BUILT FOR THESE OS'S. Don't bitch because Linux won't run on hardware that isn't certified to run Linux. It's not like the kernel developers sat there one day and said..."you know Linus, I really want to piss off axemanW from LQ.org, so I'm not going to include support for his PC hardware". Go and friggin bitch to the company that makes your hardware, not to us, cause it won't get you anywhere.

Actually, you know, I'm going to take your approach. Until I can stick Windows in ANY computer in the whole world including SPARC and PPC computers and have it work with uncertified hardware, I'm not going to pay for it.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 02:32 AM   #83
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Re: bought 9.0 personal, but...

Quote:
Originally posted by axemanW
I keep trying other distros, and I find ... debian the ultimate geeks distro.
I find that amusing. If you believe that Debian is the ultimate geeks distro, you should try Gentoo, Arch or even Slackware.
I find Debian suitable for users of medium knowledge, especially since the new installer.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 07:24 AM   #84
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Quote:
Originally posted by ServerStorm
If you are not aware of the ftp process then please refer to step 1 and step 2 in this post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=251222
Thanks ServerStorm!

Rob
 
Old 11-19-2004, 02:44 PM   #85
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Hi Rob,

Let me know If I can be any further help - offline = gninworb@hotmail.com

Truly,
ServerStorm
 
Old 11-19-2004, 03:08 PM   #86
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XP

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I bought 9.0 personal when my xp recovery discs went bad and hp didn't service my system anymore
Why didn't you just use a plain Windows XP disc to install just Windows, and use the product key on the side of the computer. That is perfectly legal.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 06:18 AM   #87
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Go and friggin bitch to the company that makes your hardware, not to us, cause it won't get you anywhere.
I wasn't Bitching to anybody. This post said POLL so I answered the POLL QUESTION.

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Why didn't you just use a plain Windows XP disc to install just Windows, and use the product key on the side of the computer. That is perfectly legal.
Because I don't have them. I bought the computer with xp home pre-installed.

My point was that I have purchased one distro. It didn't work with the hardware that I already own. So I've tried several others by downloading the iso disks and installing them. All of them support SOME of my hardware, but NONE of them support ALL of my hardeware. I will not BUY another linux distrobution until I find one that will work WITHOUT BUYING NEW HARDWARE. The hardware I use isn't unusual or outdated, nor is it cutting edge. I don't think a visioneer scanner, an epson photo printer and a linksys wifi network should be a problem. SuSE supports the printer, but not the scanner. Mandrake supportes the scanner, but the printer doesn't work well except for text. My digital camera will not work with either one without a lot of work. I'm still learning and working with linux, but I have to be able to GET SOME WORK DONE! I can't wait for other companies to write drivers for linux, nor can I wait for linux to support my hardware. Buying new hardware is out of the question as spending money reduces profits. Not everybody is a programmer or can write code. Not everybody is a IT pro. some of us are users who need to turn it on and get to work. When linux lets me do that I will buy and support that distro. There is a lot of advantages to linux (cost, security, stability, etc.) I don't preach one os above another. I just have to be able to get some work done and can't have the downtime. When you own the business you are always aware of the time spent. It was better to buy and re-install windows so I can make a living, and continue with linux as a hobby until either I have the knowledge or linux has the support needed. I have learned a lot from this board and the forums at linuxiso.org, but if all the LINUX IS GOD preachers would spend as much effort TEACHING as they do trying to elevate their EGO maybe linux would grow a little faster.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 11:51 AM   #88
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axemanW-

I post here all the time, and with most post there is a solution given to me. Sometimes its a positive solution, others it may not help at all. But when you purchase the SuSE 9.2 you also will get support from SuSE, not just the community. Which is another reason to support the distros.

Have you had any success when posting here to get your printer,scanner, or camera to work?

Or did you go at it solo?

MD
 
Old 11-25-2004, 10:03 AM   #89
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axemanW..........if MDK supports the scanner,just check to see what drivers it's using.then re-install suse,tell it to use the same drivers.as for cameras,they mount as usb storage devices.
worst-case scenario......load Xandros
 
Old 11-25-2004, 10:33 AM   #90
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I want to have money for buying SuSe DVD's. That is much better than downloading from FTP. But i have tried SuSe 9.1 personal on my test machine, and found, that it can be very easily turned to professional. But at the end I dropped it, i prefer FreeBSD or Slackware (I gues it is because Slackware was my first linux distro I ever tried and loved ) also, maybe Debian. I found SuSe to be too much "GUI" for me (I very much like CLI ) and there was issues with printer. But I feel it would be perfect for my dad's laptop .
 
  


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