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Ah... well, I'm still using 14.2 with an older version of Xfce and Whisker Menu, so I don't have that issue.
Actually, I'm not looking forward to upgrading to Slack 15 because of the changes (Client Side Decorations) in the newer Xfce.
Just my opinion, but this bleeding edge decorative style seems to be taking over everything: flat, cartoonish, 2d. Takes some getting used to for the conservative geriatric set. Otherwise, I'm liking 15.0 a lot. Any bugs can be attributed to the upstream developers. We should forgive their youthful aesthetics, ambition and impatience. It's an artefact of mtv - err - higher education.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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When kde-4.0 was released I switched to Xfce and used it for years. Unfortunately, when Xfce-4.16 was released I didn't see, and still don't see, any reason to "upgrade" and I can't stand, visually, kde-5, so I've been tweaking KDE-4.14.3 to run with -current. Much better looking interface, IMHO.
I realize there will, most likely, come a point where I'll have to give up KDE-4, so just yesterday I was looking through the "kde-store" and was surprised at the number of people who agree with my opinion of the KDE-5 appearance. The next time I get bored enough to try KDE-5, again, I'll try some of the suggestions from the kde-store.
Whatever floats your boat.
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0 (started with 13.37). Testing -current in a spare partition.
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Just my opinion, but this bleeding edge decorative style seems to be taking over everything: flat, cartoonish, 2d. Takes some getting used to for the conservative geriatric set. Otherwise, I'm liking 15.0 a lot. Any bugs can be attributed to the upstream developers. We should forgive their youthful aesthetics, ambition and impatience. It's an artefact of mtv - err - higher education.
I think they are oversizing everything, buttons, text boxes, etc, to fit the touch market.
But there are still mouse users out there that value every screen pixel
> Takes some getting used to for the conservative geriatric set.
HA! That would be me. The older I get, the more I develop cat-like attitudes... don't like change.
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> When kde-4.0 was released I switched to Xfce and used it for years.
Same here. Was a KDE user in Slackware up until then. I've come to love Xfce, but I definitely did not like the newest version I was running in -Current a few months back. I actually dropped -Current and returned to 14.2 because of that.
When kde-4.0 was released I switched to Xfce and used it for years. Unfortunately, when Xfce-4.16 was released I didn't see, and still don't see, any reason to "upgrade" and I can't stand, visually, kde-5, so I've been tweaking KDE-4.14.3 to run with -current. Much better looking interface, IMHO.
I realize there will, most likely, come a point where I'll have to give up KDE-4, so just yesterday I was looking through the "kde-store" and was surprised at the number of people who agree with my opinion of the KDE-5 appearance. The next time I get bored enough to try KDE-5, again, I'll try some of the suggestions from the kde-store.
Whatever floats your boat.
Or, we just move to fluxbox and learn to make those last few tweaks to it to do it all (tm) from there
I take more pride as a Slackware user (tm) than I have patience to put up with the silly trends of last few years.
At the end of the day; if you see the desktop, you ain't using the PC hard enough anyway
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.....At the end of the day; if you see the desktop, you ain't using the PC hard enough anyway
Good point.
However, it is the "little things" the "peek out" around the edges, so to speak, that I like best about KDE-4. For example, YAWP (yet another weather plasmoid), the shift lock indicator, the volume indicator, 3D menus and icons, and a few other things that don't come to mind at the moment. Overall, a much more visually sophisticated design.
Last edited by cwizardone; 12-04-2021 at 03:37 PM.
Good point.
However, it is the "little things" the "peek out" around the edges, so to speak, that I like best about KDE-4. For example, YAWP (yet another weather plasmoid), the shift lock indicator, the volume indicator, 3D menus and icons, and a few other things that don't come to mind at the moment. Overall, a much more visually sophisticated design.
I am tottaly on track there with You, however the thing with me is how much I am willing to put up (or pay in one way or the other) to get into enjoying those little things.
1. Take Gkrellm for instance: all looks zero fuss - I like that and i use it for that alone. Alas, there is no Gkrellm alike thing in KDE3 or any later. I only started leaning towards conky recently due insanely more powerful CPUs of today alleviated the slight sluggishness in exchange for the much more appealing looks (more garbles heavy?) not to mention tweakability.
2. The many very very many little things that make QoL better on KDE seem to come at an unreasonable toll on the resources in my view:
yes i like to see the weather forecast on a glance - but c'mon the desktop loading times with and without icons alone - let alone gadgets?
the rich application framework and parameter surface of KDE allows for those feedback rich indicators we all know and love from the Window Maker era - now if that project saw a revival that would make heads turn i'm certain...
truth be told i'm leaning ever more towards fluxbox - imagine i found a way to have XFCE4 fail me on an tightly knit PC build with only IGP on an H61 motherboard from Intel - XFCE4 fails to launch on monitor's native resolution while FB makes it (haven't unriddled yet)
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