"...what if you’d prefer your Linux to be based on Slackware?..."

cwizardone · 05-05-2018, 09:46 AM

An interesting article, IMO, on a Slackware based Linux distribution.
What I found interesting is Slackware is mentioned almost as many times as the name of the distribution and the installation instructions look very familiar.

https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to...anks-slackware

RadicalDreamer · 05-05-2018, 10:07 AM

That was a pretty good review but the reviewer doesn't seem to be aware of package managers for Slackbuilds.org.

BW-userx · 05-05-2018, 10:25 AM

Why get all willy nilly about it, and just run Slackware?

cwizardone · 05-05-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BW-userx

Why get all willy nilly about it, and just run Slackware?

Agreed.
That is what I was thinking as I read the article.

NoStressHQ · 05-05-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BW-userx

Why get all willy nilly about it, and just run Slackware?

Maybe because the target audience is not exactly the same?

I don't see the point of this kind of negative remarks, towards a project: if people want to learn, if people want to explore, if they want to try if it fits, why you all negative people always have to sack down motivation of other like if you were better...

What I see, is it's paying credits to Slackware a lot, and it's a positive stuff..

Learn to accept other might have other tastes and IT'S OK TO LEARN....

Sorry but all my life when I started to talk about my own projects, EVERYTIME some stupid "smartass" have to say "but there's already this and that"... Result ? Those people are generally UNCREATIVE and never MAKE something, they wait for a teacher or a boss to give them orders...

There would be no google because "there's already altavista"...

Really, you'd be inspired to stop this negative behavior...

Skaendo · 05-05-2018, 10:43 AM

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for those enjoy the familiarity of, say, Windows XP,

Once you start comparing Linux to Windows, especially XP, I can't help but remember this little joke (specifically #10):

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm

Then I lose interest in the article.

cwizardone · 05-05-2018, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NoStressHQ

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What I see, is it's paying credits to Slackware a lot, and it's a positive stuff....

Which is why I posted the link to the article, yet, at the same time, I couldn't help but think, why not just run the genuine article, Slackware.

BTW, good post!

hitest · 05-05-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BW-userx

Why get all willy nilly about it, and just run Slackware?

Exactly. Slackware! There is no substitute.

BW-userx · 05-05-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NoStressHQ

Maybe because the target audience is not exactly the same?

I highly doubt is as in its own ending statement for who it is suited for.Clearly that it is curtailed to the same audience as them that would use Slackware. Not explicit, but implicit.

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Originally Posted by NoStressHQ

I don't see the point of this kind of negative remarks, towards a project: if people want to learn, if people want to explore, if they want to try if it fits, why you all negative people always have to sack down motivation of other like if you were better...

What I see, is it's paying credits to Slackware a lot, and it's a positive stuff..

Learn to accept other might have other tastes and IT'S OK TO LEARN....

Hello, that was not a negative remark. It is an honest inquiry as to why would someone want to install something that is taken from an original and use it when they can have the original at the same cost? The cost here being the learning curve it takes to figure out how to get it to so it is how one wants it, and do what that same someone wants it to do?

There isn't really a lot of difference here when using a derivative from the original Disto. Debain, to slackware, to Arch, to the others.

You still have to Learn something. there is always a learning curve to something that is new.

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Originally Posted by NoStressHQ

Sorry but all my life when I started to talk about my own projects, EVERY TIME some stupid "smartass" have to say "but there's already this and that"... Result ? Those people are generally UNCREATIVE and never MAKE something, they wait for a teacher or a boss to give them orders...

There would be no google because "there's already altavista"...

Really, you'd be inspired to stop this negative behavior...

Yes I am one of them that says, they already have that so why should I bother doing that same thing that something has already done?

the adage, don't reinvent the wheel, comes to mind.

Being a "smartass" is actually a complement to the one that is being call that. It is a acknowledgement of that persons use of his or hers own intelligence.

Hence the use of the word "smart" and the Freudian psychology anal stage of life references by the usage of the word, ass. to try and add insult to something that is not an insult, being smart.

It is used as defense mechanism as means to try and deflect the feelings of guilt of inferiority.

as far as to you saying that these people that are the smartasses of the world are the people are generally un-creative and not self motivated people that make something, and always wait for someone else to tell them what to do.

I do not fall into that category you defined, and I am the one that as stated, says why waist my time in doing that something that they've (someone else) already did?

reusable code is a point in case.

that is time management, applied. Makes my life easier.

If I do find something in Linux that I like then see a flaw within it, I'll at times set out to fix that flaw. Learning something in the process while using the knowledge to make that same something better then it already is. Keeping in compliance with the open source copywriters agreements. unless I rework it to the point that it is a complete rewrite of the original, minus the code that is and has to take place in any software in order to get it to do what the functions are created to do.

In other words the basic routines need to take place to get the desired results needed. like opendisplay and createwindow and the associated functions. etc..

so yes I just put to question why go to a derivative of the original and use that as a basis for a starting point. When one is still going to have to learn how to use it, when they can use that same time and effort on the original and still accomplish the same thing.

Knowing how to deal with the Operating System that they've installed.

therefore in your statement here,

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Sorry but all my life when I started to talk about my own projects, EVERY TIME some stupid "smartass" have to say "but there's already this and that"...

is you contradicting yourself in the usage of the word, stupid in conjunction with the word smart(ass). It is a contradiction in terms.

It is your own feelings that are being disturbed whenever you take on something and others point out the truth of it all, and you not knowing how to properly deal with it that causes you your anxiety, and because you have not taught yourself how to deal with it, or you have not learned how to deal with that truth you become agitated and deflect this anger at yourself to others to try and get that negative feeling out of you and on to the one that you believed caused it. when they did not. it was an internal feeling that came out of you not the other.

If you want to learn something try learning how to deal with the truth properly.

NoStressHQ · 05-05-2018, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW-userx

I highly doubt is as in its own ending statement for who it is suited for.Clearly that it is curtailed to the same audience as them that would use Slackware. Not explicit, but implicit.

Hello, that was not a negative remark. It is an honest inquiry as to why would someone want to install something that is taken from an original and use it when they can have the original at the same cost? The cost here being the learning curve it takes to figure out how to get it to so it is how one wants it, and do what that same someone wants it to do?

There isn't really a lot of difference here when using a derivative from the original Disto. Debain, to slackware, to Arch, to the others.

You still have to Learn something. there is always a learning curve to something that is new.

Yes I am one of them that says, they already have that so why should I bother doing that same thing that something has already done?

the adage, don't reinvent the wheel, comes to mind.

Being a "smartass" is actually a complement to the one that is being call that. It is a acknowledgement of that persons use of his or hers own intelligence.

Hence the use of the word "smart" and the Freudian psychology anal stage of life references by the usage of the word, ass. to try and add insult to something that is not an insult, being smart.

It is used as defense mechanism as means to try and deflect the feelings of guilt of inferiority.

as far as to you saying that these people that are the smartasses of the world are the people are generally un-creative and not self motivated people that make something, and always wait for someone else to tell them what to do.

I do not fall into that category you defined, and I am the one that as stated, says why waist my time in doing that something that they've (someone else) already did?

reusable code is a point in case.

that is time management, applied. Makes my life easier.

If I do find something in Linux that I like then see a flaw within it, I'll at times set out to fix that flaw. Learning something in the process while using the knowledge to make that same something better then it already is. Keeping in compliance with the open source copywriters agreements. unless I rework it to the point that it is a complete rewrite of the original, minus the code that is and has to take place in any software in order to get it to do what the functions are created to do.

In other words the basic routines need to take place to get the desired results needed. like opendisplay and createwindow and the associated functions. etc..

so yes I just put to question why go to a derivative of the original and use that as a basis for a starting point. When one is still going to have to learn how to use it, when they can use that same time and effort on the original and still accomplish the same thing.

Knowing how to deal with the Operating System that they've installed.

therefore in your statement here,

is you contradicting yourself in the usage of the word, stupid in conjunction with the word smart(ass). It is a contradiction in terms.

It is your own feelings that are being disturbed whenever you take on something and others point out the truth of it all, and you not knowing how to properly deal with it that causes you your anxiety, and because you have not taught yourself how to deal with it, or you have not learned how to deal with that truth you become agitated and deflect this anger at yourself to others to try and get that negative feeling out of you and on to the one that you believed caused it. when they did not. it was an internal feeling that came out of you not the other.

If you want to learn something try learning how to deal with the truth properly.

Your long message hardly try to hide the fact that you was MOCKING... THIS is the truth, assume THAT... This is all about MOCKERY....

And Dunning Kruger effect "I don't understand, it's not for me, but I feel that I MUST take things from above"... Zero humility, no open question... You was mocking. (Dunning Kruger effect is about "smart asses", which are in fact dumb and all they say is exposing their narrow mind).

I also Love stock Slackware, I also don't see the point of this distro for me, no need to be arrogant.

And yes I'm pissed off with those kind of social behavior, it have to be said, you lack of humility, twice, trying to give rationale that "you were right" while you were only dismissing with negative approach.

khronosschoty · 05-05-2018, 02:38 PM

IMO its great to see people take Slackware as a base and fashion it with support for other target audiences.

BW-userx · 05-05-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NoStressHQ

Your long message hardly try to hide the fact that you was MOCKING... THIS is the truth, assume THAT... This is all about MOCKERY....

And Dunning Kruger effect "I don't understand, it's not for me, but I feel that I MUST take things from above"... Zero humility, no open question... You was mocking. (Dunning Kruger effect is about "smart asses", which are in fact dumb and all they say is exposing their narrow mind).

I also Love stock Slackware, I also don't see the point of this distro for me, no need to be arrogant.

And yes I'm pissed off with those kind of social behavior, it have to be said, you lack of humility, twice, trying to give rationale that "you were right" while you were only dismissing with negative approach.

they do not even use the terms smart asses. thouse are laymen terms, and they wrote a paper in technical terms.

your interpretation of that paper is you proving there point, it looks to me.

we the type names: "dumbass" then we have the "smartass"

asking a question of inquiry is not mocking.

Mocking : making fun of someone or something in a cruel way; derisive.

I did not make fun of the person, nor what he did. I merely inquired.

Why get all willy nilly about it, and just run Slackware?

.....

why does he not put his time into devising a method to incorporate what customization he made to Slackware into a slackbuild? then post it in slackbuilds.org

Learning is still being put to work.

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In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability have illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is

https://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2010...t-is-and-isnt/

that has nothing to do with smartass or dumbass, that looks to be about self perception of ones own self knowledge.

Code:

 Kruger and Dunning’s explanation, as I mentioned above, is that
 incompetent people lack the skills they’d need in order to know
 they’re incompetent. For example, if you’re not very good at
 learning languages, it might be hard for you to tell that 
you’re not very good, because the very skills that you’d need in
 order to distinguish someone who’s good from someone who’s not 
are the ones you lack. If you can’t hear the distinction between
 two different phonemes, how could you ever know who has native-
like pronunciation ability and who doesn’t? If you don’t 
understand very many words in another language, how can you 
evaluate the size of your own vocabulary in relation to other 
people’s?

This appeal to people’s meta-cognitive abilities (i.e., their 
knowledge about their knowledge) has some intuitive plausibility,
 and Kruger, Dunning and their colleagues have provided quite a 
bit of evidence for it over the past decade. That said, it’s by
 no means the only explanation around; over the past few years, a
 fairly sizeable literature criticizing or extending Kruger and 
Dunning’s work has developed. I’ll mention just three plausible 
(and mutually compatible) alternative accounts people have 
proposed (but there are others!)

what you quoted is so irrelevant to the meaning of smartass, and dumbass. perhaps you used that in order to project yourself image. I do not know.

You're defiantly not living up to your user name NoStressHQ

cwizardone · 05-05-2018, 05:57 PM

And I thought I had too much time on my hands.

You guys really know how to f**K up a thread.

I'm going to ask the system administrator to close this topic.

GazL · 05-05-2018, 06:03 PM

Yeah, unfortunately it seems par for the course these days.

BW-userx · 05-05-2018, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

And I thought I had too much time on my hands.

You guys really know how to f**K up a thread.

I'm going to ask the system administrator to close this topic.

I'm just glade that the email notices in my email wasn't another response from him, as I was going to tell him to put it in a blog and let someone else read it.