Not really, it were still a modified Debian back then. With all of Debians well known shortcomings but it were still linux.

Since the Ubuntu folks decided to hide boot messages even on Ubuntu Server since 10.04 LTS, maybe they could go one step further and replace them with a handful of advertisement banners.

But seriously. One more reason to endorse no-bull Slackware.

It's weird that Cannonical believes that they have the power to pull something like this off. Market share in a product segment where everyone's solution is free seems like it would be more fragile than that.

If I were an Ubuntu user, I'd be gone before any ink dried on press from this.

Shuttleworth's quote: "Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already. You trust us not to screw up on your machine with every update."

What an ass. How could anyone who continues to use this guy's product after this not be a considered a sap?

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The bickering between linux distros reminds me a bit of the quarrel between the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front. Let's address the common enemy instead.

Wow! I think I'll write myself a new rule-of-thumb.

Politics, religion and Linux distros are taboo topics.

I appreciated everyone's comments. Especially about contributing to Slackware in a meaningful way.



DNA
AKA mrascii

Today I read several articles and blog posts about the new Amazon feature. They are not ads or ad banners. They are Amazon search results.

I don't use Ubuntu, but if I correctly understand the Ubuntu search tool (Lens), search criteria can be limited in scope to the local machine only and the Amazon searches can be avoided as well.

Although possibly a tad more effort is required to avoid the Amazon searches in Ubuntu, fundamentally there is little technical difference from changing the search engine in Firefox from the default to Amazon. Seems the basic contention over this new feature is the proper way to implement --- opt-in vs. opt-out, separate search lens vs. integrated.

In all, after the kinks are resolved, I'm guessing more Ubuntu users than not will like the new feature.

I wonder what the response would be if Pat added a customized search engine to Firefox for the Slackware store? I'm guessing more Slackers than not would welcome the addition.

Let the Ubuntu community design their system the way they want.

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The very simplicity of Slackware Linux is its best defense against evil maintainers and any kind of malicious mismanagement that hurts the users. Slackware would be successfully forked 10 times before it ever ships with ads, because it would take 2 people per fork.

And Cannonical would surely thank you for echoing their well-distributed-in-media position. What's interesting is this kind of talk:
Whenever people say something like "I'm not <doing this well-known thing>, I'm <insert alternative terms here for the well-known thing and then define them as something else>" and then conveniently forget to include "and we generate revenues from doing it" on the end, it always means that they are in fact doing what they start by denying that they are doing.

They say that they aren't ads because Amazon doesn't pay for them to be there, but in fact Amazon pays Cannonical a consideration for purchases through these ads. To intentionally treat those two as significantly different when communicating a position to media is intellectually dishonest, to be kind.

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The best comment I have read today. It is simple as that: Canonical is a commercial company. Of course they try to find ways to make money out of Ubuntu. I see nothing wrong with that. If someone doesn't like it, there is a simple solution: Just don't use Ubuntu.

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And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

Alice's Restaurant
By Arlo Guthrie

I don't have a dog in this fight.

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Looks like Slackware is going to become my Linux of Choice now for myself and customer needs.

If Slackware ever includes ads.... it means Patrick is dead and someone else has taken over.

Hi,

Love these jewels that are given at login;
As to ads, never happen here on a true PV & Team Slackware Release. Maybe for some forks, no telling what you get then.

Except the "ubuntu community" don't really have a say in the matter now do they...?

They have the say that any Linux user has: if you don't like the way your distribution goes either fork it or move on to a different distro. Since that will have direct impact on Canonical's revenue (less users means less money with Ubuntu One services or sells at Amazon) they have a say.

Only slightly off-topic
When I was "lurking" (browsing without signing in) on LQ earlier, there was an advert: "Date 10000 Asian Women". TEN THOUSAND??? At my age??? Be lucky if I could manage half-a-dozen!