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Old 08-28-2018, 10:28 AM   #1
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The Latest Intel Microcode Update


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Intel released an updated microcode set at: Linux* Processor Microcode Data File ( 20180807a )

I can't tell what if anything is different from 20180807.

Maybe it was released simply to release a newer, more liberal license ?

HTH.

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I have expanded the two tarballs and run diff on the content
Code:
diff -Naur 1/license 2/license
--- 1/license   2018-08-07 16:35:44.000000000 +0200
+++ 2/license   2018-08-23 21:34:09.000000000 +0200
@@ -1,332 +1,37 @@
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so, yes, it looks like only the license file changes.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:39 PM   #3
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I appreciate this subject/topic. I did some searches but could not find a definitive (well, understandable to my feeble brain) answer.

My laptop has a AMD Quad CPU. I am being prompted to install the intel-microcode, but am unsure about this. Linux Mint 19.

Other chips on the motherboard? It's a Pavilion-g6 Notebook.

Thank you all, and I do appreciate your knowledge of these matters.
 
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There were some tensions recently related to the microcode license Intel pushed out:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/0...ocode_license/
"Intel's gagging order came in the form of this license clause: "You will not, and will not allow any third party to … publish or provide any Software benchmark or comparison test results." That made it impossible for free-software bastion Debian to push Intel's microcode to its users as a security update."

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Old 08-28-2018, 07:48 PM   #5
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My laptop has a AMD Quad CPU. I am being prompted to install the intel-microcode, but am unsure about this. Linux Mint 19.
You posted this in the Slackware forum. Thanks for the laugh. It won't make any difference at all whether you install it or not.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:56 PM   #6
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So how does this apply to Puppy Linux? Thanks!
 
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So how does this apply to Puppy Linux? Thanks!
Please don't start asking about your random distros in here. I already gave you the answer that applies to all of them. It won't make any difference at all whether you install it or not, except maybe your stupid distros will stop moaning.
 
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Old 08-29-2018, 04:17 AM   #8
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Unhappy Ruh roh!

The question was as to the micro code. The distro reference was tongue-in-cheek. Please accept my utmost apologies.

But as a gentleman and a scholar, no sense of humour, going rate for your nuts via Tor? Priceless.

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Old 08-29-2018, 04:56 AM   #9
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Ha, ha, some Slackers can get annoyed at others who don't conform, but this is the Slack thread.

Check to see if your distro has any patches for your distros kernel.
 
Old 08-29-2018, 05:15 AM   #10
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Ha, ha, some Slackers can get annoyed at others who don't conform, but this is the Slack thread.
Yeah, typical Yorkshire response.
We're a bit more civilized o'er tops.
 
Old 09-01-2018, 07:31 PM   #11
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Greg KH discusses how Intel Borked the disclusure of S&M in this eWeek Article: Linux Kernel Developer Criticizes Intel for Meltdown, Spectre Response

Most interesting / important is the last section Fixing the Flaws where he Greg KH says to not run untrusted code on 4.4.y

Maybe it's time I bumped my Slackware 14.2 Kernels to 4.9.y, 4.14.y or 4.19.y ... ?

-- kjh
 
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:43 PM   #12
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Wondering why is the article only focusing on Intel? The Spectre class of vulnerabilities are affecting pretty much all modern CPUs.
When these vulnerabilities went public I remember writing in the Slackware security thread that I was hoping all of them will get mitigated on microcode level.
Now, with the latest developments including compromises related to performance implications related to microcode-only mitigations, I feel like this has turned into a bad joke :

You upgrade the hinges (microcode), change the lock/cylinder (kernel) and leave a sticker on the door reading:
"Dear thieves, I have improved hinges and a new lock, please do not come with an older key, one that will make all these improvements useless. Instead, why don't you try my neighbor's door, he has a new lock but I know he hasn't improved his hinges. Buy me a beer for the tip!"

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Old 09-01-2018, 10:10 PM   #13
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But he talks about the kernel releases in his own blog post, the one you presented recently in the Latest Kernel Release thread, remember?
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5895890

4.4.y is Older LTS release and he writes about it:
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There is one huge caveat when using a kernel like this. The number of security fixes that get backported are not as great as with the latest LTS release, because the traditional model of the devices that use these older LTS kernels is a much more reduced user model. These kernels are not to be used in any type of “general computing” model where you have untrusted users or virtual machines, as the ability to do some of the recent Spectre-type fixes for older releases is greatly reduced, if present at all in some branches.
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According to that blog post, the 4.9.y is also "older LTS releases that are still being maintained" much like 4.4.y, in the same category, which leads me to believe that he's proposing the use of:
- 4.14.67 is the latest LTS release
 
Old 09-02-2018, 02:11 AM   #14
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But as a gentleman and a scholar, no sense of humour, going rate for your nuts via Tor? Priceless.
This is not easy to understand!
 
Old 09-02-2018, 02:55 AM   #15
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leads me to believe that he's proposing the use of:
- 4.14.67 is the latest LTS release
Read again. (The right answer is the latest stable release 4.18.5)

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So, here’s a short list of different types of devices, and what I would recommend for their kernels:

Laptop / Desktop: Latest stable release
Server: Latest stable release or latest LTS release
Embedded device: Latest LTS release or older LTS release if the security model used is very strong and tight.

And as for me, what do I run on my machines? My laptops run the latest development kernel (i.e. Linus’s development tree) plus whatever kernel changes I am currently working on and my servers run the latest stable release. So despite being in charge of the LTS releases, I don’t run them myself, except in testing systems. I rely on the development and latest stable releases to ensure that my machines are running the fastest and most secure releases that we know how to create at this point in time.
 
  


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