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Old 07-09-2017, 11:26 AM   #421
Didier Spaier
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Darth, thanks for your remarks.

Short answer: sorry but no, we won't stay closer to Slackware and wont get rid of slapt-get, slapt-src, spkg, graphical tools and so on.

Yes the initial duty was, as you wrote "Slackware for those who do not speak English" and stayed so for Slint versions 13.37, 14.0 and 14.1.

However, I then realized that Patrick Volkerding would not adopt the internationalized installer in a foreseeable future, and this contributed to change the duty of the project, as now stated in Slint's website:
Quote:
Originally the Slackware internationalization project, Slint is now a Linux distribution based on Slackware and Salix. It is polyglot, versatile, beginner friendly, and accessible for the visually impaired. A full Slint installation is functional out of the box and it can be tailored to fit most computing requirements.
I understand that this new orientation, put in effect in Slint 14.2, makes the title of this thread now inaccurate or misleading. Maybe I should rewrite it "Slint (formerly the Slackware Internationalization Project)" or something like that?

I also realize that probably very few Slackware users will migrate to Slint. That's fine with me.

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Old 07-09-2017, 11:36 AM   #422
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Please fix my mistake.

I made a mistake in the recent update of slapt-get, that makes it unable to install packages (it can still upgrade or remove packages).

To fix that, in case you need to install packages before a fixed slapt-get hits the mirrors, please make a symlink typing as root:
Code:
ln -s /sbin/sbpkg /sbin/spkg
Sorry for the inconvenience.

EDIT slapt-get packages have been uploaded, using spkg as back end for all functions again, thus this symlink is no more necessary.

PS @Darth Vader: bad luck, you just suffered of that bug my stupid mistake that prevented installation of libreoffice-l10n-zh-CN and mozilla-firefox-l10n-zh-CN with "slapt-get -i". Oh and I'll try to have these locale packages included, at least added at end of installation when the locale zh_CN.utf8 is chosen for the installed system.

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Old 07-11-2017, 04:59 AM   #423
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Upcoming Slint ISOs version 14.2.1

I plan to provide new Slint ISOs shortly, version 14.2.1

They will include the fixed spkg and this will be an opportunity to provide updated packages so that the system be up to date on release day, a few fixes and maybe some tuning of the base user configuration, like setting geany instead of pluma as default text editor and not mounting removable devices by default in PCManFM, or removing Orage from lxpanel, more consistent keyboard shortcuts across WMs.

I also plan to add an LXDE desktop with FVWM as window manager, as we already have most of the needed packages, and in /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc include a line sourcing one of the sbrepos provided by Alien BOB, making easier to install Eric's Chromium, VLC or Calibre packages for instance.

Comments are welcome, as usual.

PS I will include translation updates (thanks Dan-Simon for yours of pkgtools).

I would be grateful that some of the close_to_100% translations of the slint-14.2 resource be completed.

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Old 07-11-2017, 05:14 AM   #424
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Didier, thanks for explanations. At least I know where the things gone south. And no problem, anyone can do mistakes.

Also, I wish all the best to your journey with SLINT.

To be honest, I entered in this game with some false premises, also my mistake to not figure out quickly about what I have in hand. Expected your old way or at least a Slackware compilation, with a very similar objective.

So, I will give another take to SLINT, with the first occasion.

BTW, my friend said that he discovered somewhere the Slackware Book translated in Chinese. If is useful for you this, I will ask him about link.

PS. To not forget that I managed to end well my adventure of installing Slackware in Chinese, without to have a clue about language, specially because of your detailed explanations about using the Asian Languages. Thanks again!

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Old 08-13-2017, 05:40 AM   #425
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Slint64-14.2.1 is available for testing.

A beta ISO for Slint64-14.2.1 is available here.

Slint version 14.2.1 includes a new desktop: LXDE associated with an FVWM window manager instead of Openbox, and provides a few new and upgraded packages, some removals and bug fixes as well as a few added packages, mostly needed as dependencies of others.

Big change "under the hood": all packages that previously came from a Salix or an extra-14.2 repository have been rebuilt and are now stored in a Slint repository, some upgraded.

This change, not directly visible for the user, will bring more flexibility when adding repositories of third-party packages to slapt-getrc, the user being able to choose which ones will have priority over others, and will allow to deal with security issues more easily.

slap-getrc includes a source for AlienBOB's sbrepos[1], that you can just enable to use it. Read the instructions in slapt-get as well as the WARNINGS in this README.

This results in many added, removed and rebuilt packages in a big batch of updates on the occasion of the 14.2.1 release.

All these updates are listed in the ChangeLog, see under 10 and 12 August 2017

Packages upgraded:
fbterm 3.7 => 3.8
geany 1.28 => 1.31
geany-plugins 1.28 => 1.31
grub 2.00 => 2.02
lxpanel 0.9.2 => 0.9.3
inkscape 0.91 => 0.92.2
libreoffice 5.1.4 => 5.3.4
lxc 2.0.1 => 2.0.8
mlterm 3.7.2 => 3.8.2
pandoc 1.17.0.1 => 1.19.2

All Slackware patches are applied up to and including the updates dated Fri Aug 11 23:02:43 UTC 2017 in the Stable ChangeLog for x86_64.

Once this new version will have been tested enough, the updates will be brought to Slint-14.2 repository, allowing current Slint users to upgrade without re-installing.

I will provide instructions so that this upgrade be as painless as possible, as upgrading won't be optional: this way I won't have to maintain two separate repositories in the long term. I took care not to make any change that would have needed installing packages not available in the Slackware and Slint repositories.

On the other hand, new users won't have to first apply all patches applicable to Slackware 14.2 on day of release.

How-to test:
  • Install.
  • Edit as root /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc, replacing:
    Code:
    SOURCE=http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2/:PREFERRED
    by:
    Code:
    SOURCE=http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/:PREFERRED

Test reports are welcome in this thread as well as in the Slint forum @ Salix, especially but not limited to tests of the upgraded packages. And of course, I'd like to know what you think of LXDE with FVWM.

I would like to thank all people who helped me bring up this new version.

I take this occasion to announce that Dimitris Tzemos aka djemos is now a member of the Slint team. I look forward to learn a lot from him. As a reminder, Dimitris is the maintainer of the Slackel distribution since 2005. He is also a member of the Salix team, so that's good for synergy among distributions based on Slackware.

Of course other volunteers are welcome to join Slint!

Have fun,
Didier

PS:
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Originally Posted by Darth Vader View Post
So, I will give another take to SLINT, with the first occasion.
This is the first occasion. Don't miss it

[1]To be picky I should have written one of the sbrepos as Eric provides several, fed with hard links from its main repository to save space. I used the same technique to create the lxde set of packages. This will allow current Slint users to install only the new or upgraded packages from this set (others were already shipped) just typing "slapt-get --install-set lxde".

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Old 08-16-2017, 05:44 AM   #426
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Did an install of the new iso to my main laptop. Haven't had much time to work it out, but the install, with LXDE desktop, went without problems. I didn't have the usual problem with my laptop detecting the usb flash drive which I believe is the result of you using isolinux instead of grub. Hopefully I will find more time over the next few days to work it out.

Also booted up the installer on my son's new gaming computer which has 256G NVMe with Win 10 installed. Although I didn't do an install, I wanted to see if it could detect the ESP on the NVMe drive, which it did.
 
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