Slackware dev team call - topics of interest/questions?

Didier Spaier · 04-29-2022, 10:40 AM

As an aside, I won't provide grubconfig in Slint64-15.0, as the all-in-one installation script will have functions for that and in the installed system update-grub will be used

In addition I have stolen grub-customizer to Ubuntu for folks not willing or knowing how to edit /etc/default/grub or /boot/grub/grub.cfg and a rescuebootstick maker will be provided.

I will have other things to share, like our big installation script, how to install/uninstall at any time kde, lxqt and xfce with a single command (and optionally hide menu entries specific to a desktop when running another one), how to automatically update the initrd and grub after a kernel upgrade (also with full disk encryption) but will wait until after the relase of Slint64-15.0 to propose only stable things tested on a Slackware64-15.0 base.

Regnad Kcin · 04-29-2022, 10:52 AM

Some compatibility way to run software that requires systemd without using some non-slackware version of linux, and without alarming and alienating people.

Didier Spaier · 04-29-2022, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Some compatibility way to run software that requires systemd without using some non-slackware version of linux, and without alarming and alienating people.

I have in my TODO list to investigate how Artix can use dbus-broker without its launcher...

truepatriot76 · 04-29-2022, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pithium

You should probably be more specific, we have grub.

Code:

Looking for grub in package list. Please wait... DONE

The list below shows all packages with name matching "grub".

[inst] slackware64 : breeze-grub-5.23.5-x86_64-1
[inst] slackware64 : grub-2.06-x86_64-4

I think what the poster meant was having grub as an install option with the Slackware installer, which I think would be great.

willysr · 04-30-2022, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by solarfields

One can argue that when a new Slackware is released, SlackBuilds.org may not be immediately available with updated scripts for said release. So, I *get it*, that's why I only jokingly asked. However, sbopkg not being available at SlackBuilds.org is a true mystery.

I have provided the source and binary package available on sbopkg.org and it's also available in github, so if anyone want to push it to SBo, feel free

although i kinda think it would be a duplicate efforts

Pithium · 04-30-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by truepatriot76

I think what the poster meant was having grub as an install option with the Slackware installer, which I think would be great.

Probably. I've encountered people who get evangelical with things like grub so I figure we should be more specific about these kinds of questions.

I actually would like to know what the roadmap is regarding bootloaders. elilo and syslinux appear to be mostly abandoned and there really aren't really any other options than GRUB.

ttk · 05-02-2022, 02:27 AM

What, if anything, do you wish the community would do more (or better) to help the Slackware development effort?

Write more slackbuilds? Better maintain slackbuilds? Help test -current? Share use-cases? Send beer? Something else?

subscrive · 05-02-2022, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by truepatriot76

I think what the poster meant was having grub as an install option with the Slackware installer, which I think would be great.

Yes. Thats what I meant. Sorry, my previous post was via a smartphone and so difficult to elaborate on tiny screen and keypad.

rizitis · 05-02-2022, 12:58 PM

If its possible upgrade version for:
gjs
gtk4
pango
upower
vte
libnma rebuild for gtk4 support

thank you.

Windu · 05-02-2022, 01:48 PM

Please people, there's a separate thread for package update requests: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175706801/
Let's keep this thread here reserved for possible topics to be discussed by the Slackware Dev team in their podcast!

bassmadrigal · 05-02-2022, 04:24 PM

Ooo, I'll definitely need to make some time to watch this when it's released!

My questions:

Are there any plans to have a public facing distributed version control system (à la a public git repo)? Alien Bob's is nice, but it can be delayed from when updates are pushed out and it could be nice to submit proper pull/merge requests when issues are found, which can be better monitored instead of being potentially forgotten in the "Requests for -current" thread.

What are the future plans for monetization to keep Pat funded and Slackware alive? Patreon is obviously beneficial to keep a monthly flow of money, but are there plans for merch beyond the cafepress store (and hopefully a hat with the classic logo for us folically challenged people)? Plans for stable release DVDs or thumbdrives?

I know that Slackware has always had a "release when it's ready" mentality, but after having an almost 6 year gap between 14.2 and 15.0 with a 2.5 year gap between 14.1 and 14.2, are there plans to shoot for a closer together releases or keeping them further apart? At one point, we were consistently seeing around 2-3 stable releases a year. I don't see that as being beneficial nowadays, but obviously 3-5 year gaps are difficult to keep software up-to-date enough to build some modern 3rd-party software. Is there a rough target you're shooting for of maybe a release every 1-2 years?

Is there an expected target length you're shooting for to support stable releases? We're going to be hitting 10 years of support for 14.0 this fall (which is incredible!). Are there thoughts on how to determine when you'll EOL a version? After a certain period of time? After there are a certain number of stable releases in front of it?

And I just wanted to send out a heartfelt "Thanks!" for everyone involved, including Pat and dev team, as well as all the other contributions via forum and email... all of which make Slackware my preferred distro.