Since new kernel, Ethernet *finally* works, but Slackpkg and Gaim can't connect....

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 12:57 PM

My Slack install is pretty much 'nowmal', ie, it's slack-11 from the CD set Which I downloaded and burnt; the main and only significant related upgrade has been my kernel.
As far as OUR IP address here at home, it is dynamic, and changes each time we dial-out
PS-- And yes @ you both, 'ipconfig' will return the config of the windows machine, and I now have a copy here of the ipconfig /all output from the windows machine. I have re-run netconfig, but still nothing. I am gonna reboot and try again.. Maybe...... hmm..
One last idea, which I hope is not the case, but maybe I will have to reconfigure all this crap every time the Windows machine connects to the net?? Because it will have different IP settings? Doesn't seem right, because the LAN settings should remain the same regardless.
Anyhow, rebooting, see yas soon.

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 02:32 PM

Blah!.. Still nothing. Here's some info
If I run rc.inet1 in a terminal, it gives me the following (I have added some verbosity to my boot-scripts):

Code:

...enabling event logging if possible.
...identifying interfaces.
...loopback functions.
...interface functions.
...gateway functions.
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:76:0F:A5:ED
          inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:fe0f:a5ed/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:584 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:690 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:461370 (450.5 KiB)  TX bytes:106989 (104.4 KiB)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

If I run 'route' I get this:

Code:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
loopback        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Something questionable is WHY does it say under GENMASK default 0.0.0.0 ?? Should that not read 255.255.255.0 which is my LAN subnet mask?
Grrr.. I'm ready to lay all the blame on the Windoze machine.. :P

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 03:07 PM

That's not questionable, that's normal.

Let's tackle it slowly.

Can you ping the windows box?

Can you ping anything on the internet? To test (if name
resolution on the linux box still doesn't work) resolve the
name on windows (nsloopkup) and use the ip to ping from
Linux.

If you can't, then the windows box will indeed be stopping
traffic (which still doesn't explain why browsing from
konqueror works if you don't have a proxy set-up on windows).

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 03:32 PM

Pinging the Windows machine worked (though with nMap it didn't). I can ping from the console, and it appears I can ping Google as well.:

Code:

--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
13 packets transmitted, 13 received, 0% packet loss, time 11996ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.182/0.194/0.269/0.022 ms

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping LOLLIPOP
PING LOLLIPOP (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from LOLLIPOP (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.413 ms
64 bytes from LOLLIPOP (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.184 ms
64 bytes from LOLLIPOP (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.184 ms
64 bytes from LOLLIPOP (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.187 ms

--- LOLLIPOP ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.184/0.242/0.413/0.098 ms

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (64.233.161.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=275 ms
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=243 ms
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=245 ms
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=238 time=239 ms
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=238 time=238 ms
64 bytes from od-in-f99.google.com (64.233.161.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=238 time=239 ms

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 238.438/246.948/275.059/12.881 ms

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping 64.233.161.99
PING 64.233.161.99 (64.233.161.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=257 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=410 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=2610 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=238 time=2714 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=238 time=2779 ms
64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=238 time=2873 ms

--- 64.233.161.99 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 6 received, 33% packet loss, time 8023ms

And nope, no proxies anywhere..

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 03:41 PM

Ok, now I'm completely at loss. If pinging by name works, and
browsing by name works, there's NO reason for gaim or wget not
to work. Unless you have accidentally specified for THOSE to
use a (non-existing) proxy.

Can you please try gaim and wget again?

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 03:55 PM

Code:

Using `slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-11.0/.listing' as listing tmp file.
--17:52:32--  ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-11.0/ChangeLog.txt
           => `/tmp/slackpkg.2d0V5I/ChangeLog.txt'
Resolving slackware.mirrors.tds.net... failed: Name or service not known.

FINISHED --17:52:32--
Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files

Nope...
And Gaim still returns "Error from notification server - Unable to connect"
Note that I am inadvertently using Wget by trying to use Slackpkg.. If there's a way to use Wget alone without going out of (your) our way, I'm up for trying it.. I hafta get supper here soon, but will be back in a bit.
Thanks again for trying to help Tink

and others, I appreciate it.
Sasha

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 03:56 PM

That's easy:
wget ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/...1.0/README.TXT

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 04:19 PM

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# wget ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/...1.0/README.TXT
--18:18:19-- ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/...1.0/README.TXT
=> `README.TXT'
Resolving slackware.oregonstate.edu... failed: Name or service not known.

Next thing I will look at are the settings and config of the Windows machine.. Perhaps there aren't enough ports open to me or enough protocols allowed (ftp, udp, etc..).. Still baffling though, how I can do everything thru the browser..

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrapefruiTgirl

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping www.google.com

and

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrapefruiTgirl

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# wget ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/...1.0/README.TXT
--18:18:19-- ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/...1.0/README.TXT
=> `README.TXT'
Resolving slackware.oregonstate.edu... failed: Name or service not known.

Next thing I will look at are the settings and config of the Windows machine.. Perhaps there aren't enough ports open to me or enough protocols allowed (ftp, udp, etc..).. Still baffling though, how I can do everything thru the browser..

make no sense together. Did (by any stupid chance) the
connection to your ISP drop between those two attempts?

Can you ping the nameservers you entered (by IP, I hope)?

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 04:48 PM

Hmmm, nope the connection has been up all day.. Trying to ping the nameserver now...

Code:

--- 142.177.1.2 ping statistics ---
47 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 45988ms

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping 142.177.129.11
PING 142.177.129.11 (142.177.129.11) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 142.177.129.11 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9997ms

Hmmm.. Interesting, unless the ISP doesn't allow/return ping requests.
I did ping the following by name, but am not sure/can't see how this would be the correct NS to use, as it is NOT the one that ipconfig/all showed on the Windows machine..

Code:

root@darkstarSSI:/etc/rc.d# ping ns.sympatico.ca
PING ns.sympatico.ca (142.166.145.129) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from aliantnet.aliant.net (142.166.145.129): icmp_seq=1 ttl=249 time=208 ms
64 bytes from aliantnet.aliant.net (142.166.145.129): icmp_seq=2 ttl=249 time=201 ms
64 bytes from aliantnet.aliant.net (142.166.145.129): icmp_seq=3 ttl=249 time=194 ms
64 bytes from aliantnet.aliant.net (142.166.145.129): icmp_seq=4 ttl=249 time=195 ms

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 04:53 PM

What happens from the windows box? And do nslookups for the
same hosts work from there?

And what does the output of ipconfig /all look like on that
thing? And if it tells you its current name-server - can
you lookup hosts on the internet using that one from slack?

nslookup HOST server_ip

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 05:23 PM

Dammit..
I just typed in the entire ipconfig/all for you, and pressed sumbit and the damned connection was refused and I lost it all.
Suffice it to say, I am currently using the nameserver which ipconfig/all returned to me, and my browser is working fine.
I tried other numbers in there and couldn't ping or resolve anything.
The nameserver I am using, while it is working fine for the browser, does not return pings.
it's 142.177.129.11
If I put anything else in netconfig, I can't browse or ping anything.

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 05:31 PM

Hmmm ...
now I'm starting to wonder what may be causing those issues,
then; because ping and any other well-written program will
use the same OS function gethostbyname.

If you do an ldd `which wget` or ldd `which gaim`, what do
you see?

Cheers,
Tink

GrapefruiTgirl · 02-04-2007, 05:50 PM

I see a whole whack of 'lib' 's for each one.
(meanwhile I went and tuned up the Windows Network settings and still no go)

Tinkster · 02-04-2007, 05:54 PM

Anything about files missing?

Cheers,
Tink