S-nail, the latest version of mail(x)

RandomTroll · 11-28-2018, 08:26 PM

I queried the S-nailx mailing list about curious behavior (I got the message ' Snorkeling on empty pipe') The current lead Steffen (Daode) Nurpmeso replied:

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Oh really! Please let me assume it is only because of OpenSSL, rather than because of the software as such, right? :-) The .SlackBuild script of Johannes Schöpfer is the most complicated think i have ever seen! I really had to think about it, but luckily and successfully avoided that, then.

We are at Slackware, too! Thank you, this is really nice!! I did not even know that Slackware is still truly alive, but i think: good that it is.

Does it work for you-all?

montagdude · 11-28-2018, 09:13 PM

I don't use it, but does he really think that SlackBuild script is complicated? It seems pretty straightforward to me. I hope he doesn't take a look at some of Eric Hemeleers' scripts.

RandomTroll · 11-29-2018, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by montagdude

does he really think that SlackBuild script is complicated?

Herr Schöpfer replied that it is an updated version of the previous script. It seems there is some controversy in current development.

andrew.46 · 11-30-2018, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomTroll

Does it work for you-all?

Hmmm... a welter of 'obsolete syntax' error messages when I send a test message using gmail and previously successful syntax in ~/.mailrc. Referred to the man pages by these errors so a little more research required here...

For the record the 'obsolete syntax' errors are here:

Code:

andrew@ilium~$ echo "Testing, Testing, Testing" | nail -v -s "My test..." andrew.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com
mailx: Loading /etc/nail.rc
mailx: Loading /home/andrew/.mailrc
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp-auth-user
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp-auth-password
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: ssl-verify
mailx: P(seudo)R(andomNumber)G(enerator): getrandom(2/3) + builtin ARC4
mailx: Obsoletion warning: Use of old-style credentials, which will vanish in v15!
  Please read the manual section "On URL syntax and credential lookup"
mailx: Obsoletion warning: please don't use *smtp*: assign a smtp:// URL to *mta*!
mailx: Resolving host smtp.gmail.com:587 ... done
mailx: Connecting to 74.125.68.108:587 ...  connected.
andrew@ilium~$

The message goes through but the rc syntax obviously needs adjusting for this newer version...

chrisVV · 11-30-2018, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew.46

Hmmm... a welter of 'obsolete syntax' error messages when I send a test message using gmail and previously successful syntax in ~/.mailrc. Referred to the man pages by these errors so a little more research required here...

For the record the 'obsolete syntax' errors are here:

Code:

andrew@ilium~$ echo "Testing, Testing, Testing" | nail -v -s "My test..." andrew.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com
mailx: Loading /etc/nail.rc
mailx: Loading /home/andrew/.mailrc
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp-auth-user
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: smtp-auth-password
mailx: Obsoletion warning: variable superseded or obsoleted: ssl-verify
mailx: P(seudo)R(andomNumber)G(enerator): getrandom(2/3) + builtin ARC4
mailx: Obsoletion warning: Use of old-style credentials, which will vanish in v15!
  Please read the manual section "On URL syntax and credential lookup"
mailx: Obsoletion warning: please don't use *smtp*: assign a smtp:// URL to *mta*!
mailx: Resolving host smtp.gmail.com:587 ... done
mailx: Connecting to 74.125.68.108:587 ...  connected.
andrew@ilium~$

The message goes through but the rc syntax obviously needs adjusting for this newer version...

Yes, it appears from v15 we will have to use the 'set mta=submissions://[gmail-addr]:[password]@smtp.gmail.com:587' instead for gmail, although I haven't tried it.

smtp-auth and smtp-use-starttls remain valid in v15. I can't see why the new 'submissions' form is thought to be an improvement for the remainder.

andrew.46 · 11-30-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisVV

Yes, it appears from v15 we will have to use the 'set mta=submissions://[gmail-addr]:[password]@smtp.gmail.com:587' instead for gmail, although I haven't tried it.

smtp-auth and smtp-use-starttls remain valid in v15. I can't see why the new 'submissions' form is thought to be an improvement for the remainder.

Well, I have nutted out a successful version with nail / mail v14.9.11 which works well enough. Still many, many options that could be tweaked but for my purposes the following ~/.mailrc works with gmail:

Code:

#--------------------------------------------#
# Setting mailx version v14.9.11 for gmail   #
#--------------------------------------------#

# Use v15.0 compatibility mode
set v15-compat

# See the whole process, especially for troubleshooting:
# set verbose

# Essential setting: select allowed character sets
set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1

# Default directory where we act in (relative to $HOME)
set folder=mail

# My actual address obfuscated here:
set from="xxx.xxx.xxx@gmail.com"

# Request strict TLL transport layer security checks
set tls-verify=strict
set tls-ca-file=/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
set tls-ca-no-defaults
set smtp-use-starttls
set smtp-auth=login

# When sending messages, wait until the Mail-Transfer-Agent finishs.
# Only like this you will be able to see errors reported through the
# exit status of the MTA (including the built-in SMTP one)!
set sendwait

# And of course put your own gmail username and
# password here in the obvious places:
set mta=smtps://USER:PASSWORD@smtp.gmail.com:465

#--------------------------------------------#

Setting 'verbose' in this config reveals many of the better options that can be used to fine tune this. So I guess I am now quite happy with the new version in -current