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But if you know Pat, you know that it would be easier to convince him to add qt5 to /extra instead of having two different versions of the same library in the same directory (assuming that qt4 will be kept in /l)
Not true at all. Counteexamples: GTK1-3, SDL 1 and 2.
Once KDE is updated to Plasma 5, is Qt4 needed for anything else in Slackware? I would assume it would be removed eventually and wind up in SBo or other third-party repositories for those who still need it.
Once KDE is updated to Plasma 5, is Qt4 needed for anything else in Slackware? I would assume it would be removed eventually and wind up in SBo or other third-party repositories for those who still need it.
Yes, would be needed by the KDE4 compatibility support. Specially used by the KDE Libs v4.
Believe or not, there are still tons of applications which use KDE4.
And I talk about open source apps, not about a specific closed source one.
Last edited by Darth Vader; 01-03-2018 at 02:44 PM.
Yes, would be needed by the KDE4 compatibility support. Specially used by the KDE Libs v4.
Is that a part of Plasma 5 that would be required? I'm guessing that is for applications that haven't been ported to KDE Frameworks yet, but those applications may also not be included in Slackware.
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Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Believe or not, there are still tons of applications which use KDE4.
And I talk about open source apps, not about a specific closed source one.
I know that. I'm talking specifically about things in the Slackware tree, as that's what dictates whether Qt4 needs to be included or not (granted that, of course, the decision to keep it is PV's whether or not it is technically "required").
Last edited by montagdude; 01-03-2018 at 02:48 PM.
Yes. It should be great to have qt5 in /l.
But if you know Pat, you know that it would be easier to convince him to add qt5 to /extra instead of having two different versions of the same library in the same directory (assuming that qt4 will be kept in /l)
The qt4 and qt5 packages do not overlap, you can have both installed without adverse effects. See my Plasma 5 desktop package set.
Eric can give here a more proper response than me.
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Originally Posted by montagdude
I know that. I'm talking specifically about things in the Slackware tree, as that's what dictates whether Qt4 needs to be included or not (granted that, of course, the decision to keep it is PV's whether or not it is technically "required").
Anyway, precisely nothing depends right now in Qt5, you know...
Last edited by Darth Vader; 01-03-2018 at 02:49 PM.
Once KDE is updated to Plasma 5, is Qt4 needed for anything else in Slackware? I would assume it would be removed eventually and wind up in SBo or other third-party repositories for those who still need it.
I'd have to check that qControlCenter be compatible quit Qt5. Although I'll probably use GTK3 instead, to make it actually accessible with speech.
This is just one example, and even if Slackware proper don't ship Qt4 apps, I guess that users will still want to install some as third party packages.
So, at least ship it in /extra or /pasture, I'd suggest.
Last edited by Didier Spaier; 01-03-2018 at 02:51 PM.
I'd have to check that [URL="https://github.com/DidierSpaier/qControlCenter"]This is just one example, and even if Slackware proper don't ship Qt4 apps, I guess that users will still want to install some as third party packages.
Certainly. Today, that's the case with Qt5, but nevertheless Pat doesn't include Qt5. The point is that there are other places to get third party software, and there is precedent for only including a single Qt version.
That's why my question was (in case you forgot already):
OK, my bad habit to respond indirectly.
How today we can assume safely that nothing depends on Qt5, probably in future we can assume the reverse side, as nothing depending in Qt4, excluding in the Poppler support.
BUT, this discourse works only if our BDFL decide to cut the ties with the KDE4 support at all.
Last edited by Darth Vader; 01-03-2018 at 02:56 PM.
The reason I asked was because of your comment about adding 300 - 500MB to the distribution. Assuming Qt4 were removed, it would really be that minus whatever the size of Qt4 is, so probably not actually that big of an increase.
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(assuming that qt4 will be kept in /l)
