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Old 01-03-2018, 03:44 PM   #121
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Didier, something is wrong with your numbers, because the qt-4.8.7-x86_64-4.txz from my local mirror of 14.2 has 31843K as size.

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Old 01-03-2018, 04:02 PM   #122
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You are right. I just reinstalled it and now I get:
Code:
PACKAGE NAME:     qt-4.8.7-x86_64-4
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     32M
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     130M
Now I have to investigate why.

PS The records of the removed and reinstalled packages in /var/log/ list exactly the same files, so I will check the assumption that spkg -i and installpkg don't do the same maths. One more item in my TODO list...

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Old 01-03-2018, 04:14 PM   #123
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You are right. I just reinstalled it and now I get:
Code:
PACKAGE NAME:     qt-4.8.7-x86_64-4
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     32M
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     130M
Now I have to investigate why.

PS The records of the removed and reinstalled packages in /var/log/ list exactly the same files, so I will check the assumption that spkg -i and installpkg don't do the same maths. One more item in my TODO list...
Looks like your SPKG is strong at Math like my first kid...
 
Old 01-03-2018, 04:21 PM   #124
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Is that a part of Plasma 5 that would be required? I'm guessing that is for applications that haven't been ported to KDE Frameworks yet, but those applications may also not be included in Slackware.
Nothing in the latest editions of KDE Frameworks, Plasma and Applications depends on Qt4 or the old kdelibs. You'd want those only to support 3rd party packages that do not have a Qt5 port.
Mind you: the last source release of Qt4 (4.8.7) was in May 2015, i.e. nearing 3 years now. Qt4 is in 'legacy state' and does not get updates. Applications that still use Qt4 can be considered 'legacy' too.

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The reason I asked was because of your comment about adding 300 - 500MB to the distribution. Assuming Qt4 were removed, it would really be that minus whatever the size of Qt4 is, so probably not actually that big of an increase.
The qt5 package is 74 MB in size. The installed size is a bit bigger than 300 MB. What are we talking about really.
The linux kernel, tex, rust, llvm packages are way larger and I assume that after installation of Slackware, those will be used a lot less on a daily basis than qt5.
 
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:43 PM   #125
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Hi,

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Applications that still use Qt4 can be considered 'legacy' too.
I wouldn't be that harsh.
They are still very useful apps.
Although to be sincere, I haven't checked when they were last updated or if they can be compiled against Qt5:
Code:
firetools-0.9.50-x86_64-1_sbo
krename-r247-x86_64-7_sbo
krusader-git_20150309_13fa966-x86_64-24_sbo
qtgzmanager-1.0.3-x86_64-1_sbo
smtube-17.5.0-x86_64-1_sbo
sqlitebrowser-3.9.1-x86_64-4_sbo
Anyway, I'm fine with Qt4 in SBo if need be.

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The qt5 package is 74 MB in size. The installed size is a bit bigger than 300 MB.
I hope that, when the time comes, Pat will make it actually bigger, by including docs and examples.
Or at least by providing separate packages for them.
docs and examples are really great things if you learn to program in Qt.

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Old 01-03-2018, 06:00 PM   #126
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I hope that, when the time comes, Pat will make it actually bigger, by including docs and examples.
Or at least by providing separate packages for them.
docs and examples are really great things if you learn to program in Qt.
That is a great idea. Python (even a demo), ruby (ri and rdoc), and perl (perldoc) all do so.
 
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:03 PM   #127
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I agree totally with the docs and examples from Qt. That's totally worth.

Heck, at 11GB installed and counting, who care about another 1GB for those development goodies?

I think that they are worth every single byte.

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Old 01-03-2018, 10:36 PM   #128
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ruby-2.5.0
https://cache.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby...y-2.5.0.tar.gz
 
Old 01-04-2018, 12:13 AM   #129
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What do I think it needs. Current PAT WTF. Dude. Buld the kernel 4.4.11 then see if it builds against NVidia if not put the message out.
Obviously the latest kernel build is for a newer gcc. weather it is in the fookin kernel.log or not. How about fix your push to thousands of NVidia users before you push it. Look yes I am pissed At this simple bool. and a stupid short integer that the nvidia guys take our money and send Vaseline . Do not be like them put it in the log this shit breaks "nvida" PAT.
I think it is cold out side spent all day working in the cold not at a desk top. to break my system over a team leader not building NVidia and if you did it did not build if it did build how the am I wrong. Oh breaks Nvidia ?
Pissy.
Rants over you going to drop support for NVidia let me know drop some AMD cards in and end stop the bull.

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Old 01-04-2018, 12:53 AM   #130
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What do I think it needs. Current PAT WTF. Dude. Buld the kernel 4.4.11 then see if it builds against NVidia if not put the message out.
Obviously the latest kernel build is for a newer gcc. weather it is in the fookin kernel.log or not. How about fix your push to thousands of NVidia users before you push it. Look yes I am pissed At this simple bool. and a stupid short integer that the nvidia guys take our money and send Vaseline . Do not be like them put it in the log this shit breaks "nvida" PAT.
I think it is cold out side spent all day working in the cold not at a desk top. to break my system over a team leader not building NVidia and if you did it did not build if it did build how the am I wrong. Oh breaks Nvidia ?
Pissy.
Rants over you going to drop support for NVidia let me know drop some AMD cards in and end stop the bull.
Wait what?

First, there's never any guarantee that nvidia's binary driver is going to build against *any* kernel, but certainly not the latest release.
Second, you've got to accept that risk if you're going to run the -current branch.
 
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:03 AM   #131
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Mr workman the work affects thousands fill the log out. Or go back to IRC. This is not testing this is current thump your chest somewhere else .
 
Old 01-04-2018, 01:23 AM   #132
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Mr workman the work affects thousands fill the log out. Or go back to IRC. This is not testing this is current thump your chest somewhere else .
This is why I don't always even make an attempt to be polite when someone is rude, but I did for you.
 
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:30 AM   #133
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@Drakeo:
Long version: I can hardly believe that after having regularly visited this forum since nine years you still don't know that -current is provided for testing.
Short version: run 14.2 until 15.0 is released.

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Old 01-04-2018, 01:30 AM   #134
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Robby talk to the hand build it like slackbooks says put it in the log as a fail. I read logs. I push all the time. And I know this tells me one thing Pat did not build against Nivida. .No other words. KISS . I read Logs before I do anything.
look rude you are out of line. I have seen your wonderful work I use it. When I screw up no one sugar coats it.
sh NV press tab. fill the log out.
 
Old 01-04-2018, 01:33 AM   #135
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@Drakeo:
Long version: I can hardly believe that after having regularly visited this forum since nine years you still don't don't know that -current is provided for testing.
Short version: run 14.2 until 15.0 is released.
David love your work. Thats it. You have great logs. Trust meI was let down that a simple show killer was passed never noted.
It will happen again .
 
  


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