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Taking a stab in the dark, I think there might be a 10.1 to come later down the track with maybe the 2.6 kernel. Not for a while though. Other then a few little hicups, im happy with how Slackware 10 have come along.
Just to let you guys know I am NOT a developer (That stuff messes with my head) I am a user and I have found it strangely addictive
Hey Mephisto about some of the stuff you said:
I think that depency checking is cool, but it kinda screws up the ´simple layout´ of slackware... anyway for me personally I tried some other distros like arch and I have come to the conclusion that if you use apt-get/slaptget (I think thats how you write the slack one???) and you just use them to install all your programs its great, but at least for me it made compiling and installing (as packages) programs from source was much more complicated for me.
as for the Gnome menu structure as far as I am aware its pretty customizable.
Originally posted by sio Slackware works beautifully as a server in an enterprise environment, I should know since I work in one. MySQL 5 I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole just to get the options they've put in it. Wanna know why? go to mysql.com and read about it. And if you want a real database go to postgresql.org (ducks from the flames) If you have any familiarity with anything in relation then you'd understand why, if you dont have any familiarity with anything ( as im calling it here ) then who really cares, one should know as much as he wants or needs to know. Just dont step outside the boundaries of something you don't know. This could easily effect the choice of SOMEONE ELSE, yes thats right someone other than you, and make them deter from choosing a product on reading the subject of your post. This could make the person choose another distro and not even bother with slackware. Now why does that matter? because the glancing at the subject of your post begins to leave a FIRST IMPRESSION which is not good, when this person would have actually found slackware to be just what they needed. And you cannot hold that person liable for not reading the responses to the post, YOUR liable. Think before you type, you effect others lives
If effecting is that much easy, erase the whole forum and leave only my topic
I'm not affecting others lives (Slackware is life? No...)
There are many other topic to read and discover more about slack. My only topic can't do anything serious. And stop sayin liar lie or lie* like stuff. 'coz i'm not blaming anyone for what they think or write. I share my ideas.
And also, first impression is for newbies. A real linux user, goes deep eveytime (that's what he does eveytime like reading forums how-to's etc.)
All right let's all take a deep breath... Let it out.... There we go.
ShoCkwave: I am not saying that you are lying, or for that matter that you should not share your opinion. But when you start a topic on a Slackware forum with the title "Not satisfied with Slackware 10" expect some argument. I understand that not being able to select a 2.6 kernel causes you some problems. But there are at least some where having 2.6 as default would have caused problems. (On a side note you could install 2.6 from floppy, check the messages near the top of the forum... sorry can't remember the subject) Seriously though, was there anything else you disliked about 10? As a (true) example after having used 10 for a week on my main laptop I am getting fed up with the fonts. I think I must have something installed wrong since the fonts on my (9.1) media machine look a lot better.
jimdaworm: I dislike dependency checking, it was simply an example of a possible argument. I am old-school in that I rsync the release tree and have the box mail me when updates come in. Any apps I compile, I create packages for and put them in the tree as well. Then I update the apps using upgradepkg. No swaret or slaptget, though I am thinking about trying slaptget.
Every so often, I can't resist from joining in on a thread like this to say how silly I find it all.
Look, there are hundreds, if not thousands of distributions to choose from. Each represents a different vision of how the Linux kernel should be presented as part of an operating system. The vast majority of them are available at no cost. Everything from single floppy versions to mainframe monsters.
RedHat represents one vision, Xandros another. Slackware is primarily Volkerding's vision. If, at this stage of 2.6 kernel development, Slackware 10 had provided the 2.6 kernel as the default, it would have represented a huge departure from the past decade's tradition of stability and reliability.
A distribution is chosen for specific reasons. One release doesn't stand alone. Slackware 10 is expected to meet most of the same criteria as did 7.0, 4.0 or 3.5, or earlier. It is just updated to reflect contemporary code and hardware, and to incorporate some additional features as they prove necessary or worthwhile.
It would be silly to criticize the Fedora Core 2 distribution for being bleeding edge. Similarly, it is silly to criticize Slackware for maintaining a cautious approach to development.
A person who selects a sports car to haul cattle to market is an idiot, as is the person who selects a cattle truck to race in weekend sports car rallies. Each has its purpose and it is up to the individual to select the appropriate tool for the job.
Now, if that tool is defective, then there are legitimate grounds for criticism. But the sort of criticism that launched this thread, and a million like it all across the 'Net, is absurd. As absurd as complaining that a Triumph Spitfire has no place to haul 12 cows, or that a Kenworth flatbed truck with stock racks doesn't corner like a Ferrari.
You want Slackware -- then install and use Slackware. But understand what it is about. You want something different -- then that isn't Slackware -- and you should use something different.
Whatever you do, don't complain that a sports car isn't a heavy truck, or vice versa.
Mephisto: going off the subject here ( not that there is one ) but what site do you rsync from, I looked around a bit but couldn't find a mirror that lets you connect via rsync.. ( rsync .. yeah i think thats what im thinking about ), I gotta stop thinking about work on a Saturday afternoon
I'll throw something into the pot thats annoying me about slack10(rc1, just waiting around for my official 10 cd's to come in) on a single computer at work. The occassional lockup of kde. Yeah I've seen some posts about the cdrom issue and I dont doubt that it IS the cdrom issue b/c if i click home then the top icon in my left hand frame has the audiocd spinning and spinning and spinning. Of course I just took note of this friday so where I was trying to set things towards the logical use of the cdrom ill try towards the audiocd instead and maybe itll stop. [edit]( bleh, what am I saying? I really gotta stop thinking about work on a Saturday afternoon )[/edit]
SHoCKWaVe: sensation is life, slackware is just a part of life STOP your topic is just silly STOP effects others lives in small parts STOP define a real linux user STOP what actually constitutes a real linux user STOP by comparison, what constitutes a real broccoli eater STOP if one reads a false report that organic broccoli causes cancer and begins purchasing canned broccoli, does that make them any less of a broccoli eater STOP why do I even bother STOP
Originally posted by sio Mephisto: going off the subject here ( not that there is one ) but what site do you rsync from, I looked around a bit but couldn't find a mirror that lets you connect via rsync.. ( rsync .. yeah i think thats what im thinking about ), I gotta stop thinking about work on a Saturday afternoon
Presently I use the psu mirror at 3:25AM EST 3 days a week. It is usually available then not counting the week or two after a release. There are a couple others with bigger pipes, but the psu mirror is close to me. I am thinking about moving to slackware.mirrors.tds.net because it seems to be able to handle the load better.
Yes, slack is solid as rock But what about new options?
Thats where you come in and do something for yourself. Isnt that why you use linux in the first place?
Compile your own kernel for once, its not that hard.
I didnt read all the posts of this thread, but what I quoted seems to sum up the outcries thus far. If its all about having 2.6 like the other distro's..
THEN USE ANOTHER DISTRO.
I can understand if your new to the world of linux like I am, but I dont have anything to say when things dont go the way you want. If you want the 2.6.whatever kernel then you have to go get it and compile it yourself, its as simple as that. If you dont know how, you will learn if its that important to you. Degrading a distro because it doesnt give you somthing you dont want to do yourself is selfish. Instead of compaining about something you can change yourself it makes sense to just try and try again to make it the way you want. In fact, in the time it took me to write this two 2.6.* kernels could have been compiled (well on this machine anyways).
Get out there and figure it out, you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll figure out just how much you want to use linux.
Have fun damnit!
sorry for the bitterness, just in a bad mood today i guess
Actually, slackware 3.0 was the first linux distro i ever recall using.
The install cd came included in this big book by naba barkakati in '96.
Think that the kernel was 1.3.x ??
Next "big" kernels for me were 2.2 and then 2.4
(using Slackware v's 5.x to 10.0 and RedHat v's 5.0 through 7.x)
In any case, fyi, have slackware 10.0 running fine on a laptop.
When the lilo bootscreen comes up, i can boot into kernel 2.4.26 or 2.6.7
Interesting that 2.6.x double that of original 1.3.x that i 1st used (remember then that 16mb sram was a nice amount for a workstation).
IMHO, until the Debian testers/developers should fix up Sarge with a much better installer, Slackware 10.0 is the way to go!
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