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06-08-2014, 10:40 AM
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Location: Mar del Plata, Arg
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m4v with drm legally
Hey guys!
I bought a movie on itunes legally, have the administrator account and password, but in vlc I can not see it, there somehow?
thanks for the help!
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06-08-2014, 10:45 AM
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Slackware Contributor
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Distribution: Slackware
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What does this have to do with Slackware? Why would you need an administrator password on Slackware in order to see a video?
If this is a Slackware computer you are trying this on, why not answer a few basic questions for us?
What is the error you are getting when attempting to play the video? What VLC package do you have installed? What version and architecture of Slackware are you running? How did you copy your video from iTunes to your Slackware computer?
We don't use crystal balls anymore, Slackware is a modern distro now.
Eric
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06-08-2014, 02:40 PM
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I use slackware, so I ask this question here. Username and password need to see the video in itunes, has no relation to the user of slackware, it was to clarify that I have the video legally.
vlc package = vlc-2.1.4-x86_64-1alien.txz
bash-4.2$ cvlc Passing\ Through\ \(HD\).m4v
VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
[0x26a2ef8] dummy interface: using the dummy interface module...
[0x7f6700c01888] mp4 demux error: cannot create es for track[Id 0x2]
[0x7f6700c01888] mp4 demux error: cannot create es for track[Id 0x1]
if I play with xine = The source seem encrypted, and can't be read. (DRM protected quicktime file)
I have slackware long time and am not new to this, but English is not my native language and I hinder some terms
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06-08-2014, 02:47 PM
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LQ Addict
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
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Doesn't the DRM tie it to iTunes? I'm puzzled as to what the DRM does if not stop the file or copies of it being played on unauthorised platforms?
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06-08-2014, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2013
Distribution: Slackware
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What are the laws in Argentina ? That would determine what is legal.
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06-08-2014, 04:11 PM
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legally buy the movie, but I can only see it in windows, on itunes.
I really wanted to know if there was any way to play it on linux (slackware), nothing more
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06-08-2014, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by specialized
legally buy the movie, but I can only see it in windows, on itunes.
I really wanted to know if there was any way to play it on linux (slackware), nothing more
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In addition to the video or audio files from iTunes you also need the user keys.
Look here: http://all-streaming-media.com/strea...unes-files.htm
DRM is terrible. The only way to stop companies from embedding these headache-causing algorithms into their files is not buying them. I haven't bought DRM files for many years and that one time had been a mistake.
You can also convert the files on Windows into free formats, there should be a way. So you can get rid of these stupid keys. They easily get lost if you change systems or format your harddrive ("Oh heck I forgot that one folder in the subfolder of the Documents directory...") and that's just what Apple and other b*tards want, so you may buy it again
Last edited by schmatzler; 06-08-2014 at 04:41 PM.
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06-08-2014, 04:38 PM
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LQ Muse
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: A2 area Mi.
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dose it play in Mplayer with the 2011 all codec package ?
mind you some of the codecs's are OLD - it is after all from 2011
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play the file on the Windows computer it is LOCKED to
there is likely a hardware profile that "itoons"( yes toon's as in loony ) will need to check
Last edited by John VV; 06-08-2014 at 04:39 PM.
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06-08-2014, 04:44 PM
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Registered: Dec 2013
Distribution: Slackware
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iTunes also watermarks all their files. You can hear a hissing noise in the background of all files from there. It embeds your identifying info into the file and produces an audible hiss. That was the last time I downloaded anything from there, even tho it wasn't DRM'd at the time. I wouldn't touch DRM with a pole.
Anyway, it is not legal to bypass DRM, so unless you can get VLC working with your password, nothing else can be done legally.
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06-08-2014, 04:47 PM
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Location: UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metaschima
Anyway, it is not legal to bypass DRM, so unless you can get VLC working with your password, nothing else can be done legally.
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That depends on which country you live in. Only whose with corporate-owned governments have such laws.
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06-08-2014, 04:48 PM
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thanx schmatzler and metaschima
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06-08-2014, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metaschima
Anyway, it is not legal to bypass DRM, so unless you can get VLC working with your password, nothing else can be done legally.
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I think an analogue copy is legal everywhere in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So just route the analogue output of your soundcard into the Line input with a cable and record your music with Audacity while playing it back. Afterwards you can run an anti-hissing filter over it and you're done.
And if you have chosen an easier way - who can prove that you indeed did so? If you know what I mean ;-)
The above method is legal here in Germany and I think in the whole EU, too. Of course, nobody does that, but theoretically it's your argument against "breaking the law".
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06-08-2014, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2013
Distribution: Slackware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schmatzler
I think an analogue copy is legal everywhere in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So just route the analogue output of your soundcard into the Line input with a cable and record your music with Audacity while playing it back. Afterwards you can run an anti-hissing filter over it and you're done.
And if you have chosen an easier way - who can prove that you indeed did so? If you know what I mean ;-)
The above method is legal here in Germany and I think in the whole EU, too. Of course, nobody does that, but theoretically it's your argument against "breaking the law".
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A lawyer would likely argue otherwise (circumvention is an ambiguous term). Sure, I did exactly that in the past and it certainly works, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone or admit to doing it in court. Certainly I would never do this for iTunes as I dislike the hissing noise and I have tried removing it in the past, which doesn't completely work (you can still hear it and it changes the music also).
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06-08-2014, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schmatzler
and that's just what Apple and other b*tards want, so you may buy it again
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Oh look, incorrect information being spread.
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06-08-2014, 10:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moisespedro
Oh look, incorrect information being spread.
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It would've been really nice to explain that in detail, so I can correct any mistakes.
So what will happen if you lose your user keys. Can you just get them easily? That would render the whole DRM system senseless.
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