The beginning of The Silmarillion where Tolkien tells his version of the creation story would certainly give anything in The Bible a good run for its money. It's very well done.

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Must say I like what I'm hearing. I'd rather wait longer between releases and have that help with the burden. There's no reason to keep up with the Joneses to be cliché. What you guys are doing is just awesome. I'm writing this in kde on Slack 13.0 on my netbook. Haven't felt the need to upgrade as the security updates have been timely and everything just works.

I think that taking longer between releases to give you or Pat or any Slack contributer more free time is great. I think we all get too caught up in wanting things now now now.

Guess I'll toss in my .

Although I do not use KDE, personally I don't see any reason why it should be dumped. Provided of course that it can be maintained in Slackware with relative ease, and doesn't end up like GNOME becoming too cumbersome as well as making too many core system changes like GNOME did.

I might dabble in KDE again one day just to see how it is (provided if I ever get another system).

I obviously haven't been following KDE's developments though, so I don't know how they (KDE devs) are diving up the sources. Still since it is an open project, I am sure someone who is a more devoted KDE fan could at least offer a helpful comment about the sources and how they are packaged, etc. Constructive comments mind you, not anything confrontational and I am sure they would take your comments with some consideration.

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People who want things now now now can always run -current -current -current (which I usually do)

I don't even understand what your original posts were about, unless something was affecting your brain and causing you to talk nonsense.

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I just wonder if dropping KDE would mean that libreoffice and texlive can enter Slackware, and Slackware to progress in general. I would totally be in favour of having just 1 Desktop Environment (whichever that is) if such things happen. But i dont think dropping XFCE would save much space.
Alternatively some KDE packages could be removed, like koffice (which is close to totally worthless today anyway) , kdegames, kdeedu or i18n and maintained if there is demand at slackbuilds.org.

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Yeah, texlive takes ages to build - it would definitely be a welcome addition.

I'd like texlive too, but I'm willing to be that KDE gets far more use than tex of any kind.

Hmm, if space is the constraint I think PatV may add an other DVD. Further more, there many new computers that don't have DVD reader at all... They could only install SLK via USB key. Technologies bring us more possibilities.

Talking about these things ... My current method to have a very portable 'installation DVD' was 'cat slacky.iso > /dev/sdX'*, where sdX is the USB drive device.

What a waste of my little 16G USB sticks to store only 4.5G!

* Don't try that at home. Your stick will be seen forever as ... read-only DVD.

Whay can't you reformat it?

Because it will be seen as an read-only device. Just an read-only DVD. Even our Slacky will see it as an /dev/srX.

If you delete all the partitioning and start over, you should be able to get it back to its original condition. I've screwed up like that in the past and was able to recover a couple of drives.

On another note: your post made me really happy Alien. Thanks.

I used to think I liked KDE. After using XFCE the past 3 or so years, I realize how ugly KDE 3.5 was, how slow Konqueror was compared to Thunar and all the pointless features and options I don't need. KDE 4.x looks nicer, but it's even more bloated and annoying to use IMO.

Between Slackware's official packages and XFCE Goodies (Slackbuilds or Robby's packages), you can get a really nice, full featured, fast, lightweight desktop. Most of the staples of linux (besides Virtualbox) are GTK+ too, so you don't have to worry about theming engines and stuff to create a cohesive desktop either. I say good riddance to KDE (even if it isn't going anywhere )

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Well, allow me to tell you a few things. Your posts do not conform to what we expect from our members in terms of common sense, respect and netiquette and since your return it seems you have allowed yourself to lapse again, well knowing we do not appreciate that. Please keep yourself from posting provocations and generally being abrasive.

I rule the midnight air, the destroyer,
Born I shall soon be there, deadly mass,
I creep the steps and floor, final darkness,
Blood Lamb-blood painted door, I shall pass...

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