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Old 12-06-2020, 11:54 AM   #1
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Kernel 4.4.240 brakes the touchpad and keyboard diriver on my acer laptop


I have an ACER Aspire ES1-111M running Slackware 14.2_64 and up until last kernel update everything was working fine (well the wifi/bt driver needs a separate driver).
Recently I applied all the patches including kernel and first thing I noticed was that the synaptec touch-pad stopped working.
I did a bit of fiddling and by pressing the keys to enable and disable the touch-pad sometimes even the laptop keyboard stops working (but the power button still works fortunately).
I tried compiling 4.4.247 with same options but still the very same thing is happening.

Anyone know a workaround ? (using the older kernel doesn't count ... I'm already doing that now to write this message)

If I remember right back when the laptop was new I had to append this to the elilo config "i8042.nopnp" to get the touch-pad to work but it soon became unnecessary and it is commented now but it may give a clue to what broke.
 
Old 12-07-2020, 06:14 AM   #2
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There are updates for the 'BIOS' on Acers support pages. That might help.

-->https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/conten...ire%20ES1-111M
 
Old 12-07-2020, 10:21 AM   #3
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The newest bios (1.16) is pretty old (2015) but on the other hand the one I'm using is even older (v 1.10 2014) ... so I I'll see if it makes it any better.
I will add that I don't have high hopes for it to fix the issue because I also have a debian image on the SD and I updated that too to newest kernel (in the 4.9's for the release I'm using) and no problems there ... but it's worth a try. I'll update once I have tested.
 
Old 12-07-2020, 10:31 AM   #4
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Well it looks like I cant udate because I don't have windows at all anymore on the laptop and the bios is made as a windows exec:
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How to update the BIOS:
Click "ZHK116.exe" under Winodows mode


Release Note:
1. Update EC to version v1.7(improve compatibility of battery charging).
I hate vendors that assume that there is only one operating system that will run on their hardware!
 
Old 12-07-2020, 12:29 PM   #5
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There are tutorials on how to update BIOS if you do not have windoze. Here is just one example.

-->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqDU...nel=LinuxLeech

I have used this method on a system, and it worked as advertised.

Basically, you need a thumb drive, a copy of UNetbootin and of course the file(s) to update the BIOS.
 
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:56 PM   #6
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Updated bios but still no go for the touchpad.
 
Old 12-07-2020, 04:06 PM   #7
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To things come to mind.

1. Get a USB mouse and run that. I have a Logitech mouse, it comes with a small USB adapter, and it works well. That is on an Acer Swift SF314.

2. Get the older kernel package, and re-install that. There is a site in the UK that has older packages.

15.0 hopefully is not too far off in the distance. That may help.
 
Old 12-07-2020, 04:42 PM   #8
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Anyone know a workaround ? (using the older kernel doesn't count ... I'm already doing that now to write this message)
A laptop is handy because it is self sufficient ... I can pull out a usb mous but that's not the point ... I mean a work around for getting the onboard touchpad to work

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Old 12-08-2020, 01:18 AM   #9
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Just as a side note: 4.4.227 already had the issue it's just that I did not upgrade to that kernel. But the one before that (4.4.217) works fine.
I will try to find which kernel version brakes the synaptec driver on my ACER and hopefully pinpoint which part of the patch is responsible.
Maybe I should change the Title if possible.

Anyone else have the same issue ?

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Old 12-08-2020, 06:32 AM   #10
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Last working kernel is 4.4.222
 
Old 12-08-2020, 06:35 AM   #11
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Have you tried one of Alienbob's live versions of current to see if that works?
 
Old 12-08-2020, 03:36 PM   #12
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I don't want to use current ... it requires too much work.
I was hoping to be able to find exactly which part of the 4.4.223 patch brakes the kernel on my laptop ... but the patch has nearly 7700 entries ... even if I exclude all the architectures that have nothing to do with my laptop it is still way more then I can manage

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Old 12-08-2020, 03:44 PM   #13
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The suggestion is to find out if a newer kernel will get the device working. You can run it as a live distro from a USB stick. No need to install. It will tell you if a newer kernel will help.

Current will be 15, sooner or later. 14.2 is old.

Your other choice is to look at the kernel configuration on a kernel that allowed the device to work, and then re-compile the current kernel with the same options.

Last thought, is it possible another package that got updated on maintenance caused the problem?
 
Old 12-08-2020, 11:05 PM   #14
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Hi "louigi600",

A while back a new kernel was issued for 14.2 --> I installed it, and rebooted. A few seconds into booting the video screen of my computer would go blank. I tried a bunch of things, and none worked. I asked in this forum, and none of the suggestions worked. Eventually, I went into the -current repository, got the then current kernel and its modules, and installed them. The video problem went away, and I noticed no other problems related to plopping into 14.2 the kernel which was intended for -current. I used the computer in this condition for a long time, updating the -current kernel from time to time.

Perhaps the current kernel of -current will work in your situation.

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Old 12-10-2020, 05:00 AM   #15
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Yes I had been thinking to use just kernel from current ... or since I'm compiling kernels with my own setup I might go with 4.9 (since debian seems not to have the issue on that kernel version).
But I still would like to stick with the official kernel release for the Slackware version I'm using.
I noticed there were several i2c and i8042 patches on 4.4.248 but unfortunately it still did not work.
I filed a bug report on kernel bugzilla ... hopefully it will get fixed.

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