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Old 07-26-2020, 12:13 AM   #121
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Utter nonsense, and barely disguised racism. If you want Huawei banned then you should give a good explanation why you don't want Intel banned at the same time. The security flaws in their chips have been staring them in the face for decades and they did nothing about it until the furore became too much.
I won't speak to the choices made by European countries but as for the United States? Please. In China if you run a company it is one notification away from being ordered to do anything the government demands of you, and the Chinese government has never given us a good reason to trust them. Note the word government, not their people. Don't make this about racism, that's absurd. And Intel being negligent about security matters is irrelevant.

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Old 07-26-2020, 12:50 AM   #122
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Huawei is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, Intel is not. CYA
Yeah, really? I'm as far from sympathising with socialism and communism as you like but one thing I do know is that it was and still is Wall Street and London funding these movements and foisting them on the world, not Moscow and Beijing. A wolf in sheep's clothing was the emblem of the Fabian Society, which should tell you it's your friends, not the pretend enemies they create, whom you should watch.

The depth of brainwashing in the world these days, together with the barely disguised racism that so often goes along with it, tells me the so-called progressive era people thought they were living in is now officially over.

This message has been sent to you courtesy of a Huawei router and an iPad made in China.

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Old 07-26-2020, 12:54 AM   #123
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I won't speak to the choices made by European countries but as for the United States? Please. In China if you run a company it is one notification away from being ordered to do anything the government demands of you, and the Chinese government has never given us a good reason to trust them. Note the word government, not their people. Don't make this about racism, that's absurd. And Intel being negligent about security matters is irrelevant.
Yes, it absolutely is about racism, and exceptionalism, and manifest destiny. It's so deeply embedded you take it for granted.
 
Old 07-26-2020, 01:44 AM   #124
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Maybe someone could revive that archive and adapt it to 14.2 and why not to the recent current. Maybe P.V. could skip a few kernel upgrades and take time to review it. Maybe he could release 14.3 (fully patched 14.2 with a functional net install).
Sour grapes?
 
Old 07-26-2020, 02:13 AM   #125
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Huawei is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, Intel is not. CYA
It doesn't really matter. Google, Yahoo, Microsoft etc. are not controlled by the US government officially, but it didn't bother NSA to collect data from their clients.

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Old 07-26-2020, 02:42 AM   #126
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I won't speak to the choices made by European countries but as for the United States? Please. In China if you run a company it is one notification away from being ordered to do anything the government demands of you, and the Chinese government has never given us a good reason to trust them. Note the word government, not their people. Don't make this about racism, that's absurd. And Intel being negligent about security matters is irrelevant.
You forgot to say that you have a lot of Chinese friends. To be honest, this is classical excuse used by xenophobes (racists in particular).

S.P.Q.R - Senatus Populusque Romanus

Governments don't come from Uranus or Jupiter, they come from people. No mater what kind of government, it always reflects people's world view (mostly).
 
Old 07-26-2020, 05:22 AM   #127
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No mater what kind of government, it always reflects people's world view (mostly).
I am from Eastern Europe. For me that's among the most obnoxious, blatant and oversimplifying statements, I've kept hearing through the years. Hope you never experience yourself the arrogance of these words.

Anyway, the thread drifted into politics, something that I do not look for when I come to LQ. Peace.
 
Old 07-26-2020, 05:26 AM   #128
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Can we please keep political discussion to the General Forum? Whatever you think of Huawei, that has nothing to do with Slackware.
 
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Old 07-26-2020, 07:53 AM   #129
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Can we please keep political discussion to the General Forum? Whatever you think of Huawei, that has nothing to do with Slackware.
Totally agree. Disagreements about technical matters is one thing, but politics is a different animal altogether, and best confined to other areas of this site.
 
Old 07-26-2020, 08:49 AM   #130
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Can we please keep political discussion to the General Forum? Whatever you think of Huawei, that has nothing to do with Slackware.
I completely agree! Let's talk about our operating system. I love the robustness and simplicity of Slackware. Looking forward to 15.0.
 
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Old 07-26-2020, 08:56 AM   #131
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I think this thread is a great warning sign to the death of Slackware.

1. A terrible thread gets locked after far too long.
2. Another mod instantly undermines the lock.
3. Now after some flaming, bs and misplaced accusations of racism its still going...

The staff clearly doesn't care about this place.
 
Old 07-26-2020, 09:07 AM   #132
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I suggest that we get back on topic.
For me one of the greatest indicators exemplifying the life and vitality of Slackware is the slackware-current changelog. There's daily updates to the -current branch. We're closer I think to a beta release.
 
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Old 07-26-2020, 09:32 AM   #133
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I'm beginning to wonder if there will ever be one! Slackware's alive all right but it seems to have mutated into a rolling release. I can still run 14.2 comfortably on my second-hand hardware but I've seen a lot of posts by people who can't.
 
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Old 07-26-2020, 10:00 AM   #134
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When your Internet gap is of 3GB, as I had even myself for years, wasting 1GB is not fun.
Does Slackware offers wide-network installation? Don't think so. Network install is for PXE installers on local newtork. I can imagine only person which make small installation to allow to make wide connection - install remainning part with slackpkg or pkgtools.
 
Old 07-26-2020, 10:06 AM   #135
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I completely agree! Let's talk about our operating system. I love the robustness and simplicity of Slackware. Looking forward to 15.0.
You should not suggest we talk about something many of us are quite passionate about; I, for one, have trouble restraining myself going on about its virtues, and keeping my mouth shut (read: fingers *off* keyboard) when I see some ignorant remarks regarding my favorite distro.
 
  


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