Then use Windows 10 because the Linux ecosystem makes you so very unhappy! I doubt you did this to Microsoft when Windows 8 came out or Windows 10. My computer only has 4 cores and it can't reach 4 GHz. I only have 10 GB of RAM. My old 10 year old laptop can run Plasma 5 just fine. I use the Nouveau driver. It works fine.

AMD has a negative reputation on having bad drivers in the past. AMD is probably not supported very well because in the last decade Intel and NVIDIA have been kicking its butt all over the place: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

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Yes, thank you!

That's true. Certain corporations and government agencies, including the U.S. Navy, are paying mickeysoft several millions of dollars a year for Xp support.
I was in the local pub a couple of weeks ago when the owner came in, noticed the "jukebox" (internet connected) was down, so he pulled the plug
and put it back in. As it came back to life I was shocked to see the familiar Xp logo fill the screen. IIRC, the "jukebox" is leased from AMI.

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My friend, the Plasma5 is NOT the "Linux ecosystem" as much as they have wet dreams about becoming the next Android and to control everything.

It is just some over-bloated software suite, with questionable quality, which never be stable, because its authors has no clue where they want to arrive and they reinvent themselves every several years, messing everything.

And watch out for 2020, when the Qt6 is supposed to be released.

IF even Slackware 15 will ship Plasma5, most likely will be the single release where's supported that fat-ass DE.

In the next (15.1 ?) release of Slackware, probably Plasma5 will be as obsolete like is today the KDE4.

Where it has bad reputation? In the gaming?

BTW, according with the Steam surveys, the Linux gamers on Steam represents no more than 1% overall, with all $1000 video-cards possible which they have.

And what is the connection between games and a desktop environment?

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Well, if it is inevitable, maybe we should bite the bullet now (put it in -current) and work through the pain as quickly as possible?
Just a thought.

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About a year or two ago there was a report at the Daily Mail about Britain's new aircraft carrier. I was shocked to see one of the weapons operators sitting at an XP computer. The olive theme was the giveaway. An hour or so after I pointed it out it was headline news at the DM!

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I recently migrated a windows 98 Pentium III to a dual core Windows XP system lol. The company is running an ancient DOS billing program with no backup or way to reinstall it. I told them they need to start making plans to switch to a more modern billing software but I doubt they will. I seriously think windows xp will still be around for a while to come.

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Darth Vader, the connection between gaming and desktop environment is hardware acceleration. KDE like Windows allows you to turn stuff off if your graphics hardware can't take it. Also I've seen a non-gamer complain about heat in one of those Radeon cards just doing regular desktop work and internet browsing on Windows 10. I don't know if all of those people are gamers or not who complained about AMD drivers.

I suspect Slackware may go with KDE 6 whenever it is appropriate unless KDE is removed. I think Slackware 15.1 will use Plasma 5. There are a lot of packages that require Qt5 now. I suspect someday they'll require Qt6. I could probably install something made in the late 90s on Windows 10. I can't do that with Linux. Linux software isn't like Win32 API that'll work on Win 95 and Windows 10 because the apps come with what they need with Windows. How about the poor souls who do not have 4 Ghz beast that can build Qt5? My point is Qt4 was abandoned and in Linux you have to have the right libraries installed so you can use the software that you want to use. Some Linux software calls for Qt5 now, not just KDE. I tried to use a Krita appimage before Plasma 5. It didn't work and you want everyone to have to deal with dependencies on Qt5 in Slackware 15 because in Plasma 5 Kate doesn't work like you want it.

BTW, look in the attached screenshot for something fun: Plasma5 LTS, WITHOUT KWin effects. Yep, effects disabled, everything put down, no compositor (and tearing like hell, thought), clean reboot, and so on.

How you comment?

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Well, lets put aside the video issues KDE has. They can be solved one way or another and are not showstopper bugs.

One of the major problems I have is that KDE is simply unusable in LAN. This KIO thing is a crap. It makes local copies of opened files even for some native KDE apps. And it will eventually upload the file when it is closed. So in a multiuser environment you have to avoid using the file manager to connect to shares and mount them manually or with automounter.

Another problem is the shitload of bloat in the form of mostly useless apps. Except for some nice ones like kate and okular the rest is virtually unusable. Kmail is a crap. Konqueror has never been an usable browser and will never be. Calligra is a joke. And so on, the list is long.

So when "using" KDE I find myself mounting shares and running GTK apps - Firefox, Thunderbird, Libreoffice. KDE provides the launcher and the round clock at the cost of several hundredth megs of ram and a few gigs of wasted disk space.

That being said, keeping KDE in Slackware is a good marketing decision. The target audience of the distribution has shifted from Linux users to Windows refugees and KDE, being a poor Windows imitation, makes them feel at home. Also Eric does the heavy lifting, so P.V. can focus on the core.


Cheers.

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Does it increase or decrease privileges if you run "kdesu sudo su" while logged in as root?

This is my playground computer which have zero valuable data within, BTW...

Let's take the "security" with a bit of salt. And in future this DE should work as root perfectly, or it will have zero value for me.

Or you believe that I will use that wonderful Plasma5 for serious things? Only for testing and play, man!

Where I do the real work, those computers are completely isolated from Internet, only connected between them in their own local network, and via VPN to a particular company.

Because I need to work many times after hours, from home, to be honest...

I'm joking about the privileges, but nobody ever tested it as root 100% so you shouldn't be surprised if it bugs out.
KDE devs are serious about that, it shouldn't have any access after KDM, by design.

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You need to submit bug reports to KDE. They don't bite.

I found the solution for us all. I found another operating system which runs KDE 4. I think you should consider it: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kde...?source=navbar

They do that only to hide their sloppy coding. Instead to fix bugs, is much simpler to do a recommendation, right?