[SOLVED] How to disable HAL and still use X in Slackware64-13 ?

GrapefruiTgirl · 09-15-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Sasha, I meant caveat as in caveat emptor.

Please forgive my bad English anyway; sixty years old and still trying to learn it

Hopefully with the help of WordNet, available at Slackbuilds.org it will be easier.

Hi Didier;

Forgive me: your English is great, there's no problem there

I was just being silly -- figuring we could use a different latin word for "be aware", instead of 'caveat' for "beware".

Note the difference:

"Beware of Dog" # implies scary dog that will attack you.

"Be aware of Dog" # less scary -- means "fyi: there's a dog around here (and don't run him over)".

Sorry for the confusion!
Sasha

Didier Spaier · 09-15-2009, 11:56 AM

cave canem

Don't be sorry, I always welcome your remarks.

Cheers,

GrapefruiTgirl · 09-15-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

cave canem

Don't be sorry, I always welcome your remarks.

Cheers,

Thank you

Sasha

Didier Spaier · 09-17-2009, 07:10 AM

Some news: "X server crashing when HAL daemon is not started but dBus daemon is" was a bug in xorg-server, already fixed in version 1.6.3.901. Rémi Cardona gave me this information (I posted the issue on the xorg mailing list), CC Patrick Volkerding.

See http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xse...dfaead48e86440

So hopefully my workaround won't be necessary any more when xorg-server will be upgraded in Slackware-13.0 (or in the next release, this is up to Pat).

BTW, Rémi told me too that AutoAddDevices is enough to disable HAL support at run-time.

GazL · 09-17-2009, 07:20 AM

I get "bad object ID" from that link Didier, but thanks for the update. I always suspected it was a actual bug, but it's nice to know its a bug that's already been fixed upstream.

Didier Spaier · 09-17-2009, 07:34 AM

Sorry for the bad link in previous post, it's now fixed.

Nylex · 10-26-2009, 01:27 AM

After recompiling X to remove its dependency on HAL, is it OK to remove the HAL package entirely? I've removed executable perms on rc.hald, so the daemon doesn't start on boot, which leads me to believe that it would be safe to remove the HAL package. Just want to be sure..

Didier Spaier · 11-01-2009, 05:27 PM

Well, IMHO chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.hald is good enough to get rid of it -- That's what I did, at least

Unless you be really short of disk space, I wouldn't recommend you to remove it, as you still could find another application which rely on it. For instance when I launch amarok wit no HAL daemon running I get some weird messages like this one:

Code:

QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&)  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown"

At least, keep the package somewhere, ready to be re installed.

Nylex · 11-02-2009, 12:13 AM

OK, thanks!